Some item effects which should be easy enough to implement, and add a little variety to the items we can equip;

– constant healing. An item which provides a small amount of healing per turn. Basically for re-re’s and perman00bs, or newer players. Takes an item slot so may make forum pwning slower (if it’s at the expense of offense) but reduce overall consumable costs.

– constant low level damage. A range of items at different damage levels? Would be in addition to your own damage. An alternative to an offense boost, but would not scale with offense, so a good choice for some forums but not others. Damage would be X+Y*Z, where X is the damage boost, Y is the base attack damage and Z is your offense level.

– boost a stat at the expense of another stat. Boost ego at the expense of offense or defense. Boost offense at the expense of defense or ego. A way to change your stat distribution without respeccing.

– items which boost upkeep, the only stat which doesn’t appear on items. Why not?

– items which increase or decrease the number of threads in a forum (within the pre-existing forum limits) If you want to farm for moar files equip such an item, and you’d be able to reach the thread limit more often (thus making the constant rechecking less tedious) at the expense of some item slot pwning stats. Likewise if you want to speedrun on a low thread count for job points or lemon scoops etc (at the expenese of pwning stats, perhaps making it more difficult to speedrun those fewer threads)

– one shot item to restore a broken pistachio streak. Flezz surcharge when using according to where in your streak you are? Near the start = cheap. Near the end = very expensive. Possibly other penalties e.g. sacrifice another forum visit, no chance to get more peen for that streak. Pistachio streaks are very fragile, and that may be a good thing, but the all or nothing nature of them is a harsh lesson in obsessive perfection. I think making streaks more resilient to mistakes is a good idea, if there are penalties to do so. + yet another way to take flezz out of the economy.

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They’re all very good, except…

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

- items which boost upkeep, the only stat which doesn’t appear on items. Why not?

That would be counterproductive. Upkeep makes items last longer, so an item that makes items last longer would have to be very fragile, so to say.

Kilroy Posted:

They’re all very good, except…

That would be counterproductive. Upkeep makes items last longer, so an item that makes items last longer would have to be very fragile, so to say.

I dunno, it would be good if it took up a key equipment slot and had no other bonuses, basically.

These are great ideas.

I must take this opportunity to say “lol level 5 jeweled earbleeders”

MeatLoafFan Posted:

Exists already. It’s called the The EndoPatch™

The EndoPatch as it stands is a useless and over expensive consumable. 5HTP is better, cheaper and faster. I thought for a while that 5HTP+Endopatch might have some advantage, but really, 5HTP+5HTP is better, since you get 50 more HP quicker.

Also I was talking about an equipable item (and therefore a background effect) The tradeoff is that it’s an item slot you can’t use for boosting other stats. So, slower forum completion, less consumables (question for the player – does that work out better when also taking into account repair costs? is the extra healing always needed?)

This is a very good idea, but keep in mind it takes awhile to code all this stuff, test it, and the community would never be satisfied. Along with that, everyone would complain that hackers would receive a huge advantage from their abnormally high offense.

As described, the effect would be independent of the offense level, so no more useful for a Hacker than any other clbum. The amount of damage would be fairly low. Just a simple way to add a little variety. Useful on some forums, but not on others.

Their are some troll attacks (+15 offense, -5 douchebaggery) that do just that. Now, again, this would be difficult to regulate, and would significantly lower the difficulty of the game.

The attack you mention is a stat boost, not a tradeoff. It’s also an attack, not an item (either consumable or equipable)

Why would it lower the game difficulty if you

a) use an item to change the stat distribution

b) can’t use that item slot for an item which boosts stats

It wouldn’t lower the difficulty directly, it would add greater flexibility for those who acquire the item (and unless it’s a consumable, equip if for specific forums where it’s useful) Again it would just be different to other items, not better or worse – such items would be balanced appropriately. A boost to offense is more valuable than any other stat, so the tradeoff would be a bigger penalty to defense or ego. If a consumable, something which boosts offense, but hurts your ego when you use it? So you’ve got a stronger attack at the expense of being significantly more vulnerable. Or you’re a tank with weaker attacks (and taking more hits, and damage to your equipment) Or you wish to move some ego into defense so attacks do less damage, but you may end up using more consumables.

– items which boost upkeep, the only stat which doesn’t appear on items. Why not?

Seems a bit unrealistic doesn’t it? An item, which makes all your other items last longer? Also, what’s going on now is creating Flezz sinks as to not give people huge advantages. This goes completely against that.

Why is an item which repairs or preserves other items for longer so outlandish? Have you heard of… oil? Or teflon? Log in to see images!

Devil is in the details. What if e.g. the item itself is too expensive to economically repair (effectively making it a different kind of consumable, which you sell at the ppwn shoppe when finished with it, or perhaps it just disintigrates)? And how is boosting upkeep any different to boosting defense (which means less attacks land a hit) except that defense offers other pwning advantages?

This is a terrible idea. Essentially, this is putting it out there that users that have been on Forumwarz longer, and have stockpiled loads of Flezz, are given special priveleges that the poorer aren’t.

Though this is a great idea is the prices were outrageously high, because, it’ll double as a Flezz sink.

It’s a terrible idea, but OK if it’s a flezz sink, and I specifically mention it being a flezz sink? lol. Any long term player is going to think carefully about spending a lot of flezz, especially if (as I hope) ET gives us some *other* good reasons to spend it. We need lots of high value reasons to spend flezz, or those older players will *always* have more flezz than you. A few broken streaks would diminish that advantage, if you’re thinking in the longer term, and you’re more careful *not* to break your streaks. If older players don’t make mistakes, they wouldn’t need such an item, and those players will always have a flezz advantage anyway.

OrsonScottCard Posted:

Now that we’re seeing Itembuildr, it’s becoming painfully obvious that none of these ideas are possible to implement with the system CZ has made.

Bumped for great mourning at lost opportunities.

Really? I disagree. Who’s to say that there can’t also be a ‘Submit Stats’ idea, that is voted on only by CZ themselves?

I can see a once a month submission, one per player (not per alt), and then CZ reviews them at their leisure. They can even set maximum values for the normal stats, and then have an extra text box where you can describe ‘other effects’.

Because everyone else would have access to the same item, and it would break the game. ET would have to put constraints on how powerful items can be. Just define an item in terms of upgrade points, and then choose a value for low, mid, high and top tier items.

e.g. +1 offense would have a value of 3, +1 frugality a value of 1, -1 offense, a value of -3