Evil Trout Posted:

Heh, this thread will never die! I responded in the other thread and I should clear some things up:

While it’s great to hear your input we don’t want you guys to get worked up about it because we honestly haven’t decided for ourselves.

I can promise that we’ve never discussed or considered a recurring fee like WoW. We’d need a much bigger universe to pull that off.

Secondly, there will always be free content to play here. And we have plans for more free content and upgrades to existing content as time goes on. We’re not going to shut the doors and be like “PAYEES ONLY” Log in to see images!

Finally, we have never considered charging existing donors money to play. I promised in the other thread that if you’ve already paid us anything before Episode 2’s official announcement you will get in without additional cost. We’re not out to penalize everyone who’s been generous so far!

I should also point out that we’re looking into SMS payments, but sadly that hasn’t been so easy so far. So many different countries with different rules Log in to see images!

While i don’t think i would pay for content and missions i might pay a few broniwe points to play as a permnerb or hacker.Log in to see images! funkytowel edited this message on 03/07/2008 7:07PM

Replaying as other clbumes does at a lot of fun to the game. There’s nice little touches here and there.

nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

I probably wouldn’t. There’s honestly no way I’d be able to. And even with content available to those who didn’t pay, I’d probably be ****ed that there’s better content I’m not able to get, and probably quit.

Oh, and if you do decide to have pay2play, don’t do that bull**** “donation” thing KoL uses.

R.I.P. Antiantiantichrist

i dunno, i wouldn’t consider that system bull****. no one has to pay to get anything, all the same content is availible to donors and non-donors. some is harder to get as a non-donor, but there are items even hardcore donors will never be able to get because they were limited time and not enough people bought them to re-sell. and even new players who have never donated can get lucky and become filthy rich in the game and get themselves donation items without paying a cent. none of those items are absolutely essential to gameplay however. sure, some make things easier, but you can still accomplish the same things without them. it just might take longer.

i personally prefer that to content that is availible only to people who donate, even if it is only a one-time fee.

Well… here is problem….

The very special kid who thinks that is is going to make millions because here is the toast of NY…

The “outsider artist” who thinks that they really care…

The Virgin who thinks that she is really her first…

Ultimately, Your user base are really losers and dead ends. People who can not or are afraid to give you real world funds. Charging for your services is suicide. Find a way to make money off your traffic. Find a way to secure your future. You have one of the most powerful tools of “the future” but it is still a dream…

I don’t want this site to die. I want to see you guys prosper. Direct your traffic. Make use of what you have.

I’m not really for the idea but i would still pay, unless it’s like a rediculous amount.

Hell no I wouldn’t pay for Episode 2. Why would I do that when I could just **** off back to Kingdom of Loathing and enjoy all the new content they’ve come up with lately? Or go play some other free online game?

What I *WOULD* pay for is advance access to the Episode 2 alpha or beta testing phase.

Corion Posted:

I probably would not pay for episode unless …

1. The servers got a SERIOUS upgrade.

How do you think a server would get upgraded, if not through additional income?

Basically we’re at the point now where adding more servers would cost 3-4x as much as our current hosting costs, because we’d have to move to a private rack.

A lot of posts in this thread basically boil down to: I want more from you guys and I want it to be free.

Psychologically it makes sense: who wouldn’t want awesome stuff and never have to pay for it?

But there is a huge cost in not only keeping the current server running smoothly, but in developing that new content. We cannot create a system where no income comes in and costs a lot to maintain, that’s just simple business.

Ultimately it’s all of your individual choices regarding what to spend your hard earned cash on. If you don’t find Forumwarz gives you any value that’s your choice and hey, no hard feelings.

But please, at least acknowledge the fact that a site like this doesn’t write and maintain itself. It takes a ridiculous amount of work, and if it could be running smoother and have 30 hours more content by flipping a switch we would have already done it, obviously.

Same here, a shirt I would definitely buy, a fee I would not pay.

Just an idea here though, but maybe an intermediary one time subscription, like 5~10 bucks paid once and for all for some extra features (multiple accounts, 8 daily forum visits instead of 4 …Log in to see images! would be ok for me.

Also, I really appreciate the game as it is, with little ads and a lot of game space, but I don’t think anyone would mind a little more ads somewhere on the screen.

Anyway, thanks for your hard work bringing this game to the net, and keep up the good work ! Log in to see images!

Acid Flux Posted:

What if there was both a free-play & pay-to-play option, with the main difference being that pay-to-players got first crack at new updates, and after 4-8 weeks, those updates become free. If there was a one time fee for that privilege, and if updates were a regular event, that would be a decent compromise.

I think that would be a good business model while still making the content available (eventually) to all players. During the wait, there’d still be a lot of pwnage to partake in…

Not a ****ing chance.

As far as I see it, it’s either adverts, or pay-to-play.

And they’ve got adverts.