my_name_is_pearl Posted:

New question: bumuming that the quantity and quality of the content of episode 2 were the same as ep1, HOW MUCH would you pay? I feel like many of the people who say they won’t pay to play are only saying so because they expect the game to be quite expensive.

Sorry I just finished writing my last post before reading this one. Probably between $5 to $10. But if you read my post before this I point out reasons why going to a straight pay2play system maybe are not as a great reason to go that route.

Granted I know Forumwarz has a great following but going pay2play this early is not really that wise of a decision I mean it’s Forumwarz not World of Virgins.

CptJackbum Posted:

If I could I would pay… but that would require a visa giftcard, and those are a pain in the bum to find.

not really, i think i saw them for sale at a grocery store, and at a gas station.

Evil Trout Posted:

How do you think a server would get upgraded, if not through additional income?

I just meant that as part of a pay-to-play experience I would expect better hosting for the game. Right now I don’t expect that, since I’m a cheap bastard and haven’t given you a dime (yet). I totally understand how expensive hosting can be. I just wasn’t sure if a server upgrade was planned for episode 2 from the profit or what. II was just saying I wouldn’t want to start paying if I was still going to have intermittent problems just logging in at night.

Evil Trout Posted:

But please, at least acknowledge the fact that a site like this doesn’t write and maintain itself. It takes a ridiculous amount of work

As a senior Computer Science major in college, I completely understand how time consuming these large projects can be. Thank you for your dedication, and on top of that your openness and your presence within the community. I know how hard it can be to manage these huge projects and update them regularly and quickly. On top of that you also manage to browse the forums and actually respond to people who want regular updates and questions answered.

Evil Trout Posted:

and if it could be running smoother and have 30 hours more content by flipping a switch we would have already done it, obviously.

Ahahaha. Awesome response.

I’d probably be willing to pay $5-$10 for episode 2, I guess. Depends on how many of the things on my list on page 5 were added.

Corion edited this message on 03/13/2008 2:27AM

CreepPipe Posted:

Average of $0.08 per click making it 62 and a half clicks to make it $5. I’d say on a good day AdSense makes you about $175, but realistically it’s even less because AdSense appeals to users of the internet whom aren’t that savvy. You’re dealing with a demographic that has ads blocked and even if they don’t have grown accustomed to ignoring them.

That’s so true. I bought brownie points to get an avatar and got the ads removed as kind of an afterthought. I can’t even remember seeing ads before I bought the perk, that’s how much I tune them out.

Like I said worst-case scenario… and I push the limits of what can happen in that way of thinking. Didn’t think you would, but it puts things in perspective.

... don’t you pay for internet access?

To be honest I would pay a maximum of $5 for just a new episode. What I would potentially pay another $20 (over the next few months) for would be new depth. For me this means more interesting choices to make (like new abilities), less inconveniences (like tracking forums during vanilla runs >_< ), and keeping the meta-game interesting (no improvements come to my mind). Most importantly, I want know that the game is going in a good direction. That is, instead of just giving me “more of the same” I can expect “more of better.” If I go on it’s going to be a long rant about what makes a browser game fun for me, so I’ll just keep it at that for now.

Skyreal edited this message on 03/13/2008 1:26PM

I would like to pay for it but if it’s more then say $10 I don’t think I would

Sorry, I couldn’t stay interested in you post to read all of it.

Seriously though, also something stay the same forumbuildr changes week to week. Domination adds the competitiveness to keep the people going back to forums. Flamebate is always fun.

Eh, one week you’ll come back thing about the new forum added and you’ll find out Episode 2 came out. Neat-o.

I don’t mind paying to play (Hell! I paid to play this ‘beta’ round for crying out loud!) But I think it is very important that there be some level where it is not a requirement.

The secret seems to lie in offering JUST enough advantage in paying, without making it a requirement or even a necessity to remaining competitive. IOW, you can sap the fun out of it either way and when that happens, you’re done.

This is only the 3rd RPG I’ve participated in and it is by far the bestest. I won’t mention names (unless you beg me) but one was a ‘cookie-cutter’ game with next to nothing in the way of new code and fraught with uncorrectable bugs. The other was coded from the ground up but the owners were criminals. (They were playing the game under multiple alts and essentially goading other players into spending because ‘Well, THEY are…’ (I wound up being banned because I called them out on it. From time to time I check back to see how they are doing and, suffice it to say, they are NOT. ‘Nuff said.)

I only bring this up because of the 3 games this one really is clever. I don’t want to see you guys make any of the same mistakes.

(Oh, and I’m really only here as part of the research for my OWN game, haha! No, seriously, I am! You guys set the bar pretty G-D high too!)