Vanilla: You would ambum 12 lemons and 1/2/4 pistachios in the process of attempting to recieve 1 vanilla. For Klans vanilla shouldn’t be a problem but for a lone player it is pratically impossible. Possible alternative for solo players: Awarded for pwning consecutive threads without using an item eg. Pwn 20 level 1 threads, 15 level 2 threads, 10 level 3 threads, 5 level 4 threads, 2 level 5 threads or 1 level 6 thread without using an item to recieve a vanilla scoop.

I also have gripes with chocolate as well TBH… Acquisition only through exterior means which could lead to people exploiting forumbuildr to gain medals. But at least it is a feasible way to gain scoops.

Anyone here have similar sentiments?

I may be one of the only people in the game who Pwned all 12 forums at the same time and it was hard to do before forumbuildr was created and Forumwarz got huge. Now it’s pretty much impossible for small klans to do. I’m not sure what can be done but I agree that it gives klans an unfair advantage.

Klans have multiple advantages in Domination.

1. Klans can organize mbum runs (as the Sisterhood did quite recently) to get a lot of Vanilla for their members. IMO, only those members that actually made a forum run that counted towards a multi-pwn should receive 3 vanilla scoops. Klan ‘spectators’ should receive 1 Scoop.

2. Klan members can upvote each others Forumbuildr submissions, thereby gaining Chocolate Scoops. This is highly abusable, if a concerted effort was made.

3. If members of the same Klan are on the same Domination team, they can easily work together to sabotage other players on that Team. One Klan member can focus on gaining Most Scoops/Fave Flav, while the other one buys Domination cards to screw over anyone that could threaten the first Klan member. And if more than three Klan members were on the same Dom Team, they could effectively shut out any competition, period.

For those reasons, I think the Klan dynamic & effect on Domination Games needs serious consideration.

Vanillas as a single player are possible to get, though not exactly in great numbers. And I think we’ve all seen that the Klan vanillas need some tweaking around.

Just a couple of thoughts.

– Agreed. It would be a **** to try to get vanilla (without just switcharooing some scoops) as a solo player. But, there are considerably stronger methods (lemon pwnage) for a solo player anyway.

– A vanilla raid is not a simple thing or a “given” for a klan, or it would be happening with more klans. It also happens to require a hell of a lot of organization and teamwork – those are considerably more important than brute force. If this is really a question, I’m sure virtual_eyes wouldn’t mind at all if any of the game devs want to sit in on a vanilla raid to judge it.

– I was worried about the forumbuildr manipulation thing as well, but last week when I was trying to be all helpful and good I could not even remotely keep up with the mbumive number of items to vote on. People are basically lazy and I just don’t see people taking the time to go through 800 potential options to find the one they want to upvote.

– It’s not stated outright, or maybe it is, but this is a pvp arena with a multiplayer option. I pvp on KoL, but as I’ve been informed recently, I pvp for all the wrong reasons. I’m very good at KoL pvp and it works well with my semi-diamondy goals. This feels very different. I want the trophies, man I do love trophies. I got a medal last week on my own, no vanillas involved. Then this week I pulled an bumhole card and apparently it roused my inner bastard. I’d have almost 100 scoops right now, but instead I have 23 dom cards – ‘cause it seems fun to male reproductive organ with people.

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Whoops.

I disagree. Whatever your numbers are, coordination is the key. 40 klan members on at the same time with bad organization could get less vanilla scoops than a team of 10 with a purpose and some kind of plan. In our klan, even those still working through the story can help, with coordination (that’s me lol). In fact, as the game gets more and more crowded, coordination becomes even more important.

Lastly, all I want to say is – you will never know, until you try. Which is basically what we did last week – try.

Skyreal Posted:

Lastly, all I want to say is – you will never know, until you try. Which is basically what we did last week – try.

We tried with six, which wasn’t enough (but we kind of knew that going in). I’m sure we’ll try with more when we get a chance. But that said – a coordinated bunch of forty will accomplish a lot more than a coordinated bunch of ten.

The ten would probably have more fun waiting for the forty to strike, and then trying to bungle their board takeovers.

Lust Posted:

Are you really a troll, or an emo kid in disguise lol.

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Lust Posted:

P.S. Vanilla scoop solos are perfectly possible, several people in my Klan have done solo vanilla raids fairly recently. You can also do it while getting pistachios and lemons, so…

I know. I’ve done it myself. It’s not a *ton*, but it’s something, so I basically need to get in the habit of playing at bizarre hours – I’m pretty sure that it’s not something that’s particularly feasible during the daytime, at least.

Lust Posted:

Basically, lrn2playkthxbai

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I love how every, if not most, people in this thread so far who have defended how the Vanilla scoops are gained at the moment are currently in the Sisterhood. A curious observation, indeed.

Actually…I had a thought that once more klans start organizing vanilla raids and actively pursue this, it’ll become a LOT harder for one single klan to simply clean up in scoops. I think the method is fair, but maybe the amount awarded per award needs to be lowered a bit for klan raids. That’d lower the overall scoop count enough to make it not so overpowering. Also, I agree a lot that single player vanilla acquisition needs to be made at least a little easier. Also also, chocolate scoops DO seem to be too meta-gamey on first glance….but then I realized that domination as a whole is meta-gamey anyway, so meh.