Johnny Mac Posted:

If placed a bid for a thousand dollars for a marble on eBay, would they shut it down?

that’s a good question.

quangntenemy Posted:

I think CZ are doing their best to make sure the game is fair for all. Kyoubai isn’t perfect but for this case I believe their decision was right. Instead of helping them improve it you guys are just trying to make it worse.

Stop it!

worse because its fun to try to outbid friends? who is here for fun, cz, or US?

Pavilion Posted:

The abuse detection actually tagged out a real, valid bid for a good .moar file.

Yes but this is a completely different case where the abuse is clear.

quangntenemy Posted:

us, as in more than 100000 players, or just a few who are abusing the system?

100000 accts, sure, 100000 players, hardly. as for ‘abuse’ its just people having fun, why does it bother you that people want to have bidding wars for fun?

-that IS the fun of auctions, is the bidding war aspect. or its supposed to be

Wow, if you really like outbidding friends, I’m pretty sure Evil Trout can create more junk auctions for you guys to bid on soon. It’ll be fun Log in to see images!

**** you guys i really wanted the marble

mNeMoNiC aLg0rItHm Posted:

i just dont see why anyone even cares, so what if people wanna spend a zillion on some stupid item..then they can go make more money.

its not like its gonna ever seriously affect the ‘economy’ of the game

-if its to help some noob even, i mean, who really cares? its gonna happen anyways on smaller levels

I agree. If there were more times that Flezz changed hands, or more competition for scarce resources, then this might be an issue. Besides auctions, though, there’s essentially no financial interaction between players, so there’s really no economy to be hurt.

quangntenemy Posted:

us, as in more than 100000 players, or just a few who are abusing the system?

Hmm, I’m kind of on the fence on this one. I can see part of both sides.

But let me ask you something, Q. How do these auctions interfere with the fun of the 99% of the player base that aren’t involved in them?

As far as why the system is automated, my guess is that the workload of manually monitoring auctions would be too much for an already overworked staff.

And I can see the fun in blowing through flezz on stupid stuff. I’m an American, and I see my fellow Americans do it every day. How hasn’t played a game of Monopoly were you had such a commanding lead in the game, you were offering stupid prices for virtually useless properties? ”Hey, dude, I’ll give you $10,000 for Baltic Avenue, just so I have this whole corner of the board!”

My thought would be to simply flag any user that was making such an obscene bid or sale, so that someone could review it manually. Or even if the Auction itself could have a publicly viewable flag, with a warning and an option for a Bidder or the Seller to send in an explanation about why it’s not abuse.

Auto-shutting auctions really isn’t the best option, and I’m hoping its simply temporary.

Personally, I don’t see the point of allowing Junk to be auctioned in the first place. Other than these auctions in question, are people really paying more for the Junk than a player would get for selling it in the Ppwn Shoppe?

Bumping because the thread got moved, meaning a mod saw it, but no comment was made.

Acid Flux Posted:

Personally, I don’t see the point of allowing Junk to be auctioned in the first place. Other than these auctions in question, are people really paying more for the Junk than a player would get for selling it in the Ppwn Shoppe?

Once I’ve got an optimal .moar set, I intend to start collecting statues and cats.

Also, perhaps the auction house could start tracking the selling price of items. If something sells for more than two standard deviations above the average, then the auction should be flagged for review. Otherwise it’s within the realm of normal bidding.

That would keep auctions for Pink Floyd or Useless from being blocked in spite of selling for more than 100x their retail value.