I’m 99% sure that 6,6 is stand. The reason you hit against a 3 in single-deck with a 9-3 or 10-2 is because you’ve taken a 9 and 10 out of the deck already. The 10 gives you an advantage, because it’s one less card you can bust with. The 9 removes some of the dealer’s advantage, but it’s less clear-cut of an explanation. Taking out the 6s doesn’t do anything special as compared to 7-5 or 8-4.

I have the complete odds worked out now. I’ll try to put a full chart up by Friday, but I need to double-check the calculations and organize the data. Right now I have pages and pages of floating-point numbers in a giant ****-heap.

Oh, one of the other weird rules on GB:

Dealer’s BJ doesn’t count as anything special, it’s a regular 21. This is basically just a mbumive benefit, I’ve never heard of it in actual play.

plk Posted:

Just award the medals to the players in each bracket with the most flezz. That’s the way it works out anyway.

I disagree. It is a matter of available time, not available flezz.

Flezz totals will likely keep going up. Once a player gets past Ep. 1, they can run whatever forums they want. It doesn’t actually take a lot to figure out which forums will give you a profit and since there is nothing else to burn up excess flezz the total is bound to grow. A bankroll of 50k can allow for almost indefinite blackjack play if you are using a guide. Even if you hit a big losing streak, you can recover quite a bit through daily forum visits.

I think allowing GB to give out scoops on Guess The Number only would be best. RPS and BJ lose money at far too slow a rate (or even allow money gains with good play and luck), and thus become unlimited sources. Guess The Number is seriously stacked against the player, making AF scoops a purchase rather than just a time sink.

BirdofPrey Posted:

maybe you could give scoops when you lose large bets instead of winning. I thought anti-freeze scoops were supposed to be for self-destructive behavior anyway. That never made sense to me, that you can get them by winning.

While it is in the theme of AntiFreeze, with the current rules it would just make it easier. Whie gaining money, you lose a lot and get scoops, and when you have a bank roll you just lose on purpose.

BINGEBOT 2015 Posted:

Hey all,

We have reviewed all of the various suggestions, and in the sake of time and ease to implement we are proposing the following solutions to the Antifreeze Scoops issue.

1) Limit Gamble-Bot 3000 to only give out up to 5 Antifreeze scoops per user per day.

2) Allow Gamble-Bot 3000 to give out Antifreeze scoops for Guess My Number & Paper, Rock, Scissors as well.

That’s it for now. Quick, dirty and solves the problem. We hope.

Discuss. We’re looking to implement this by the start of the next Domination round.

B2015

I bumume Vanilla, Pistachio, Chocolate and Lemon Sherberts to be limited in that case as well? I think this is one of the worst possible ways to deal with the problem, reallyLog in to see images! I like sux2bu’s idea better, where AF is still unlimited in theory but the insanely lame odds of Guess my number should put a practical limit on scoops earned.

Edit: Damn you Vuron for ninja’ing me!

Lemons and pistachios are already capped by the number of visits you have. Vanillas are uncapped if you have a good raiding klan only, and choco scoops are hit or miss. The cap on AF just brings them in check, but makes vanilla raids overpowering again. I don’t know what a good compromise is.

markchd Posted:

Lemons and pistachios are already capped by the number of visits you have. Vanillas are uncapped if you have a good raiding klan only, and choco scoops are hit or miss. The cap on AF just brings them in check, but makes vanilla raids overpowering again. I don’t know what a good compromise is.

A 5 a day limit on antifreeze would make them way harder to obtain than any other scoop. I still don’t know what’s wrong with my suggestion to make GambleBot pay only 6:5 on a BJ rather than 3:2.

SG94 Posted:

A 5 a day limit on antifreeze would make them way harder to obtain than any other scoop. I still don’t know what’s wrong with my suggestion to make GambleBot pay only 6:5 on a BJ rather than 3:2.

No one said nerf flezz, but nerf Anti Freeze Scoops.

SG94 Posted:

A 5 a day limit on antifreeze would make them way harder to obtain than any other scoop. I still don’t know what’s wrong with my suggestion to make GambleBot pay only 6:5 on a BJ rather than 3:2.

What we’re trying to avoid is making it “mandatory” for people to gamble in order to compete in Domination. As it stands, the more you gamble, the more of a benefit for Domination (and your wallet) it becomes. Changing the payout will reduce the amount of Flezz you win (and in the long run will reduce your ability to keep gambling). But it doesn’t really fix the problem.

Putting a limit on the number of scoops you can get makes it much more attainable for any user to log in and get them daily, if they so choose. We have limits on some of the other scoops too (as was previously mentioned, Lemon, Pistachio) so it’s not like this is a new concept.

In general for the future we’d like better and more ways for users to get scoops, but not at a cost of sitting at your computer day in and day out. We want to avoid a situation where if you’re devoted enough to stay up all night and do an action (in this case gambling) that it gives you such an advantage over other players that no one else wants to participate (which is the current issue).

If the solution we’re proposing doesn’t address the issue, and worse, causes an issue, we can look to adjust again. This fix is quick and easy to do and should stop the current abuse and level the playing field for people to get involved again.

B2015

ugh.. long response means I get ninja’d.. ok then Log in to see images! BINGEBOT 2015 edited this message on 04/29/2008 1:43PM

Echuu Posted:

No one said nerf flezz, but nerf Anti Freeze Scoops.

Ok, then now I say nerf Flezz to nerf Antifreeze. I’m making flezz on gamblebot currently, is that a good thing then?