male reproductive organ Liquor Posted:

I’m bumping this because discussion needs to be going. Right now I can do all the gambling, speeding and consecutive pwning in the world, but it doesn’t help me. I’m not competing with people who get free scoops for clicking a link at the correct time.

Alts are also way overpowered in this respect, meaning people can basically buy medals. Just the other day I had a test run for solo klan vanilla: very doable, and free scoops for non-participating alts. This is bull****. Nerf it.

Prior to last night, you may have had me agreeing that there should be a tweak in the vanilla system, but with more forums and less turnover, these raids aren’t pulling in anywhere near the scoops they used to.

Brainfreeze raided for *8* hours last night. (Yes, that’s an 8) Those that were there for the whole thing pulled in more than a few scoops, but they worked their bumES off for it. That’s a full workday for most people. Once upon a time, the same number of people with the same number of visits could have pulled that off in 2-3 hours, but turnover sucks with all these forums available.

As for non-participating alts – I don’t see that as an issue. If they really wanted to maximize their scoops, they’d use the alt visits. If the alt gets the scoops without participating, they’re losing additional scoop counts – but the player still put in effort (ideally), even if only on one character.

thats an awful lot of effort for 12 scoops.

The Grinning Man Posted:

Sometimes proving to yourself that you can do it is as much fun as the material reward…

Exactly.

And now that I’ve had a bit of experience, next time it will work better and likely return more scoops.

Plus it’s another 12 scoops tubs didn’t have before. Plus I’m resting off a bad headcold so I haven’t had anything better to do. Log in to see images!

this is getting ridiculous BTW.

Cap vanilla scoops.

heres the gamble.

if nothing is done there will be a giant rift in the DOM boards… those that play for the RP value (like me) and those that play for competitive DOM raids (like Brainfreeze). If this is truly what the admin wants then so be it, but the rift will be there even wider than it is today. People that arent a part of these type of DOM klans will simply not compete in DOM anymoar.

There will indeed be competition in DOM among these types of Klans, probabaly moarso when EP2 sarts and moar klans become active in the DOM raids. And we will be talking boards where everybody needs to have at least 65 cards or moar even have a chance at winning.

As an active member of Flamebate for over 5 months i can tell you that some people are having even less motivation to play the game because of this.

So either cap it, fix it somehow, or watch my prediction come true.

im just sayin.

EDIT: and yes i wasnt paying attention to my alts this is AAHZ. LOL

scullyangel Posted:

a condition check requiring that a player actually hold one of the 12 forums in order to receive a scoop

This. No more scoops by leaving the comp on while auto-refreshing a link. Wouldn’t solve everything by itself but it’s better than the current situation by a long shot.

Also boohoo no more free scoops for meLog in to see images!

Snake Eyes Posted:

of course you are, echuu, you are in Brainfreeze and got over 200 vanilla scoops last raid Log in to see images!

haha, perhaps a bit biased Log in to see images!

I propose adding in a cooldown between Start Raid, so you can’t raid for several hours straight by just reclicking the bumon.

It’s pretty obvious that the sheer mbum of klan vanilla overpowers any other elements of domination. It really doesn’t matter how fast your speedruns are, how creative your forumbuildr submissions are, how much gambling you can get done if you aren’t getting close to the same amount of klan vanilla that other peole in your bracket are getting you are outta luck.

I can understand rewarding cooperative play I just think it’s a bad design to make cooperative play scoops uncapped while most of the singular play scoops are capped. Yes chocolate is not currently capped but as far as I can tell few people are getting anywhere near 200 chocolate scoops in a given week. That is to say chocolate has never been perceived to be a problem with domination. Anti-freeze and vanilla have been consistently mentioned as significant problems and reasons why people quit playing.

Now if you want domination to be focused around rewarding established klans then keep the system as it is currently. However if you want a more inclusive rather than exclusive game then I definitely recommend limiting the power of vanilla.

NOT Evil Trout Posted:

While I can’t argue with the fact that klans have a substantial advantage in domination, I really do enjoy a good raid. I keep coming back to the idea of splitting domination into groups which allow and disallow klan vanilla. I don’t know if an option for whether to allow klan vanilla should be presented each time you are bumigned a team or if being in a klan should cause you to be bumign/moved to a klan vanilla bracket, but I really like my toy. Please, don’t take it away.

I didn’t realize Antifreeze was a serious raiding guild. Be that as it may, would you raid even if you didn’t get vanilla? If you enjoy it so much…

Veer Posted:

I propose adding in a cooldown between Start Raid, so you can’t raid for several hours straight by just reclicking the bumon.

Then, instead of a 6-hour raid one night, there will be 2-hour raids on 3 days, and anyone who attends all 3 will still get the same amount of vanilla.

scullyangel Posted:

4 weeks down the line, the more casual players will not be competing with the klan psychos, the psychos will have all medaled up.

To be fair, one person with a handful of alts will still have at least one character in a low-medal, or even unmedaled, bracket, and will still be able to dominate.