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I heartily endorse and/or approve of these changes.
While adding oneself to a raid opens itself to abuse, even if it’s fully abused it’s no worse a situation than we have now. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 11:57AM | View Escher's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted: Well, that’s not strictly true. Right now the Flamers have 3x our members, so even with a “mere” 150 scoop raid, they out-vanilla-ed us overall. And believe me, we’ve been feeling the sting of those bumholes. But the one-scoop change will impact them exactly as much, so it’s still cool and makes things better for those un-raid-clanned people.
Sweet!
The raid will automatically end after 2 hours, and for now there will be no limit to the size of your raid party or how many raids you can run in a week. Can we have the raid be optionally extended by an officer one time per raid for an extra hour or something? With 30 members, you can conceivably spend like 80 minutes raiding. Add on time for people to check in beforehand, that’s up to an hour and a half already. If a Klan gets more participation, or has to delay by 30-60 minutes for some reason, I think it’s lame that people will lose scoops and time trying to get a new raid timer up and running.
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 11:57AM | View Sancdar's Profile | # | ||||||
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I also heartily approve of these brilliant changes and agree with the above post by Sancdar. In particular that first bit mentioning us, except for the “mere”, of course. Log in to see images! Wyrd edited this message on 03/19/2008 12:53PM |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 12:33PM | View Wyrd's Profile | # | ||||||
I for one welcome our new alien overlords.
... what? Oh yea, and fully agree with the new Vanilla Raid system. 2 hours should be time enough, even if because no one can stand raiding for longer. Cherrypie edited this message on 03/19/2008 12:43PM |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 12:42PM | View Cherrypie's Profile | # | ||||||
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Maybe you guys can’t keep it up that long, but we ladies can just keep coming and coming Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 12:50PM | View Sancdar's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 12:55PM | View Cherrypie's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 1:05PM | View Bubo's Profile | # | ||||||
If that becomes a problem, I believe what *really* must be done is extend Raid Time to 3 hours, and the Raidmaster being able to make invite-only raids (the extra hour is for preparation, waiting people arrive, briefing, etc etc etc) |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 1:15PM | View Cherrypie's Profile | # | ||||||
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This sounds like a great start! I think klan vanilla is still going to be awfully strong compared to what a solo player can do, but here is to hoping I’m wrong. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 1:15PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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Perhaps increase solo vanilla to 2 or 3 scoops upon pwning 4 forums? The most scoops you can get from 12 visits then would be 18 or 27 vanilla scoops, much closer to the 36 lemon scoops one could get with those 12 visits and nice for those not in (raiding) klans. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 1:22PM | View Wyrd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wyrd Posted:
I think this would definitely be a decent idea as it would allow solo players and klan members in non-standard time zones to have a decent chance of netting a small number of vanilla scoops. Combined with speed runs and pistachio loops a good solo player would likely be able to at least consistently compete for min scoops.
I also wouldn’t mind there still being a 3 scoop bonus if your clan can pwn 24 forums simultaneous instead of the current 12. That way there would be an incentive to organize big, risky raids. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 1:29PM | View Vuron's Profile | # | ||||||
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Vuron Posted:
No. A) Upping the scoop # from solo raids would make klan raids completely meaningless, because we’re generally giving up lemons and pistachioes when we raid as a klan, but when you’re soloing vanillas you get lemons and pistachioes as well.
B) 3 scoop bonus would be an incentive for.. oh gee, what stupidly mbumive klans do we know that can supply 30-40 people per raid? Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 3:44PM | View Lust's Profile | # | ||||||
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Lust Posted:
Until we see how the new changes impact the domination standings I’m not sure you can definitely say that increasing solo white scoop rewards would nullify the advantage in klan raiding. If we bumume that anti-freeze gets nerfed sometime soon there should be some balancing mechanism that keep solo players viable in domination.
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 4:17PM | View Vuron's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 4:52PM | View markchd's Profile | # | ||||||
markchd Posted:
Well, it could also be us as well, and there are theoretically 14 klans that could pull it off. However, I think we are the two in the spotlight. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 4:55PM | View Bubo's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
Reworking how vanilla raids works and then cutting the rewards to a third of what it was sounds pretty risky.
Lets see how it works out first but this update might just nerf vanilla runs into oblivion Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 5:28PM | View funkytowel's Profile | # | ||||||
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I wouldn’t think it would nerf the runs into oblivion. Considering your 360-scoop run would still lead to 120 scoops, that’s still a hell of a lot better than the 36+(at most)24 you could get for chaining 16, 20, and 24 forums with 3 lemons on each. I expect Antifreeze to be next on the chopping block. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 5:58PM | View crovax1234's Profile | # | ||||||
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I just put the finishing touches on the new raid tab. I’ll launch it tonight, sometime after this round of domination ends, maybe a couple of hours later depending on how things go.
I think it works pretty well. It’s just a big bumon to get it started, then any member can join in with no hbumle.
If you kick someone out of the raid party they can’t join again until the next raid, so be choosy about using that link Log in to see images!
P.S. I wont be around when Domination ends tonight, so if something goes wrong be patient for an hour or two! I’m pretty sure everything is running smoothly though. Evil Trout edited this message on 03/19/2008 7:28PM |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 7:23PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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Is it up yet? |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 11:42PM | View markchd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Yup, I just pushed it. New vanilla rules are in effect. |
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Posted On: 03/19/2008 11:51PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||