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Macho A serious discussion about shock images / ofensive material.

Kilroy

Avatar: 62524 Fri Dec 26 00:25:59 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

I honestly don’t care about shock pictures. Goatse is like “oh look he can stretch his bumhole pretty far” to me. Obviously, this is not the case for the other 99.99999999999999% of the Internet.

Even though it doesn’t bother me or someone else, you still have to set the rules to fit the majority. Just because a few people aren’t offended or whatever by Goatse doesn’t mean that it should be shown every other second, because there’s many more that are offended or whatever by it. Thus, because CZ is a business, and all businesses want is money, and the way to make money is to have as huge of a userbase as possible, you have to make the userbase as open as possible (ahaha Goatse pun), without ruining your business, of course.

That doesn’t quite make sense, as more people are incredibly homophobic and just as offended by the deluge of gay porn in every thread.

Czarnian bum-
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Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

That doesn’t quite make sense, as more people are incredibly homophobic and just as offended by the deluge of gay porn in every thread.

1. How did you come to the conclusion that more people are homophobic than are offended by the shock images we are discussing?

2. Aren’t these images primarily confined to the RP forums? Where do they appear elsewhere?

Wow, try to keep the converstaion civil. I didn’t say more people are offended by gay porn than shock, I said more people are homophobic, as in a majority of people are homophobic. The type of people on this site are no more likely to be offended by goatse than lots of gay porn.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

1. How did you come to the conclusion that more people are homophobic than are offended by the shock images we are discussing?

2. Aren’t these images primarily confined to the RP forums? Where do they appear elsewhere?

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/25527

Thats on a Non RP forum and look, a dead african being hanged. On a thread about the so called “black history” probably If a cz member was a african canadian he would have banned most of the posters on that thread.

Czarnian bum-
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Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Wow, try to keep the converstaion civil.

Um… I did? I asked you to explain how you came to that conclusion. I didn’t attack or insult you in anyway. How was what I said in any way uncivil?

I didn’t say more people are offended by gay porn than shock, I said more people are homophobic, as in a majority of people are homophobic.
This is where the confusion arose. If you had said ‘most people’ are homophobic, then it would have been clearer. When you said ‘more’, it seemed that you were comparing the number of people that were homophobis to the number of people that are offended by shock images. Thanks for clearing that up.
The type of people on this site are no more likely to be offended by goatse than lots of gay porn.

That’s a huge bumumption. Goatse is much more graphic than normal gay porn.

Czarnian bum-
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Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

Angry hobo Posted:

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/25527

Thats on a Non RP forum and look, a dead african being hanged. On a thread about the so called “black history” probably If a cz member was a african canadian he would have banned most of the posters on that thread.

I completely concur. That post is intentional trolling, and should be treated as such in a non-RP forum. Specifically, it fits into one of my criteria listed above.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

I completely concur. That post is intentional trolling, and should be treated as such in a non-RP forum. Specifically, it fits into one of my criteria listed above.

Even the CZ team is trolling there JB called ET a african there. cough>And people say there is no selective modding…

AntiRules187

Avatar: 79421 Tue May 26 22:06:20 -0400 2009
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[Temple of the Anth-
ropomorphic Majesty
]

Level 35 Troll

It's actually an honor to be pranked, it means someone spent real money on you. Sir.

Adapt Posted:

”I’m not easily offended” should p much negate any shock clbumification.

QFT

Czarnian bum-
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Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

Angry hobo Posted:

Even the CZ team is trolling there JB called ET a african there. cough>And people say there is no selective modding…

I’m sure if ET reports that post to McBan, then something will happen. Log in to see images!

That’s definitely a ‘grey-area’ trolling, if you even want to call it that. Two close friends poking light fun at each other really shouldn’t be considered trolling, especially if the Mod knows that fact.

You’ve got a solid argument regarding the lynching photo in a non-RP forum. I’d stick with that for now, instead of trying to light another fire elsewhere.

FAIL

Avatar: 36735 2015-06-13 23:04:37 -0400
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[Full of SbumSS]

Level 25 Re-Re

Head of the Ministry of Man bumes

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

I’m sure if ET reports that post to McBan, then something will happen. Log in to see images!

That’s definitely a ‘grey-area’ trolling, if you even want to call it that. Two close friends poking light fun at each other really shouldn’t be considered trolling, especially if the Mod knows that fact.

You’ve got a solid argument regarding the lynching photo in a non-RP forum. I’d stick with that for now, instead of trying to light another fire elsewhere.

I agree. For example, if I were to make a post in Game Discussion where I called Hobart Bliggity a gigantic fabulous person, he would also know that I’m just a close friend poking light fun at him.

Lord Shplane

Avatar: 49819 Fri Dec 05 01:45:00 -0500 2008
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[Forumwarz Speakeasy]

Level 69 Troll

:)

I’m not sure that things like Goatse and gay porn are meant to “Offend” people so much as “Shock” them. Thus why they’re called “Shock” images.

Bling Fling

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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Angry hobo Posted:

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/25527

Thats on a Non RP forum and look, a dead african being hanged. On a thread about the so called “black history” probably If a cz member was a african canadian he would have banned most of the posters on that thread.

Just a q. Did you report that post and get a message back from a mod saying that the post was fine or not? It might be that they haven’t gotten around to it yet.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

I’m sure if ET reports that post to McBan, then something will happen. Log in to see images!

That’s definitely a ‘grey-area’ trolling, if you even want to call it that. Two close friends poking light fun at each other really shouldn’t be considered trolling, especially if the Mod knows that fact.

You’ve got a solid argument regarding the lynching photo in a non-RP forum. I’d stick with that for now, instead of trying to light another fire elsewhere.

Tehn you are saying I can insult people in non RP forums just because they are my friends? Cause I know some people who did that and got banned.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Bling Fling Posted:

Just a q. Did you report that post and get a message back from a mod saying that the post was fine or not? It might be that they haven’t gotten around to it yet.

I did reported it, and I’ve been banned enought times to know the rulles. and that thread is not following the rulles. I got banned for some stuff people are doing in that thread.

If I did a thread on Ayn rands titled “In the memory of the jews that died in WWII” and on the same thread I called someone a jew and posted some concentration camp pictures I would be banned.

Czarnian bum-
bumin

Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
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Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

Angry hobo Posted:

Tehn you are saying I can insult people in non RP forums just because they are my friends? Cause I know some people who did that and got banned.

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

Two close friends poking light fun at each other really shouldn’t be considered trolling, especially if the Mod knows that fact.

My point is that if a Mod knows that it’s ‘friendly, playful banter’, then, at the Mod’s discretion, it can be ignored. (Might help if an emoticon was used to suggest lightheartedness, or even a closer that clarified that.)

But the Mod may not know that two players are just poking good-natured fun at each other. That’s why I called it a gray area. To be on the safe side, don’t push that envelope unless you know that McBan & Tubs both know the score.

Indiana Jonas

Avatar: 13850 2014-12-19 09:36:26 -0500
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[At Least I Never M-
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Website
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Level 35 Troll

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FAIL Posted:

I agree. For example, if I were to make a post in Game Discussion where I called Hobart Bliggity a gigantic fabulous person, he would also know that I’m just a close friend poking light fun at him.

wtf dude reported.

Seriously though, there will never be a definitive answer on shock images. What is “shock” and what isn’t is completely subjective. I think the only way to find a middle ground on this is to not ban for borderline shock, but just remove/edit the post. When someone posts goatse, the mod has to go in and edit the post anyway, so why not just leave it at that for questionable cases.

Obviously, a precedent has been set for goatse, so that won’t fly without official word. But for other images, just remove/edit the post, and take action as necessary if a player chooses to keep posting an image that was previously deemed inappropriate. That way, if I find an image that I think is borderline, I can post it, and if it gets reported and edited out, I know not to post that one anymore. If it sticks, I know that image is fine and won’t have to question using it. I just don’t agree with bans for borderline images, and this way the mods still control the content without any kind of guesswork.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Czarnian bumbumin Posted:

My point is that if a Mod knows that it’s ‘friendly, playful banter’, then, at the Mod’s discretion, it can be ignored. (Might help if an emoticon was used to suggest lightheartedness, or even a closer that clarified that.)

But the Mod may not know that two players are just poking good-natured fun at each other. That’s why I called it a gray area. To be on the safe side, don’t push that envelope unless you know that McBan & Tubs both know the score.

I know for a fact Tubs and BanH. most of the times only ban because ET says so (see the initial post of this thread).

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Angry hobo Posted:

I know for a fact Tubs and BanH. most of the times only ban because ET says so (see the initial post of this thread).

I don’t see the problem with this. If the Owner of the Website wants someone banned… what higher authority are you going to appeal to?

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Black Dragon Posted:

I don’t see the problem with this. If the Owner of the Website wants someone banned… what higher authority are you going to appeal to?

Thats one of the main reasons why I dont donate and I disencourage people to donate aswell.

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