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MC Banhammer Posted:
Many people, upon reading something, form what is known as an “opinion”, or a personal belief pertaining to the situation just described.
Also, It’d be nice to know whether this was something that had been talked about at official meetings, or if it would be something that would be brought up at the next one. I guess some kind of statement about whether or not this falls under your definition of “abuse” (which it doesn’t), since the system is flagging them as flezz transfers, when really its something completely different.
Brilliant idea, have “flagged” auctions go to review by mods/admins, instead of just being auto-****ed. That way you can see a three bid item for 6 million and go “flezz transfer” and a 35 bid item (by 8 unique users) for 4 million and go “these guys are dumb but whatever, enjoy your marble”.
And for the record I’m getting pretty ****ing sick of the “oh you don’t like it, don’t play” response. This can’t be CZ official policy on anyone that finds flaw in their methods. I’d get fired if I ever told a customer that complained to me “oh you don’t like our food? Don’t come here then.” good business model guys. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````````````````````````````~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Log in to see images!
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 1:10PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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I’d just like to remind you, Hobart, that I’m not on CZ’s payroll. I don’t attend meetings. Sometimes I get to hear about upcoming ideas, and offer input, and sometimes I don’t. But I don’t have any official say.
Maybe someone on staff will come here and address your issues, maybe not. I don’t know. Your attitude sure isn’t going to endear them to your POV, though, this much I know.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 1:15PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
Gotta love the people who complain when a game’s developers do something to curtail abuse, instead of complaining about the abusers who ruined it for everyone. Second the request to move this to Whiny ****es.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 1:35PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Pluvius Posted:
Um… for fun. I’ve got 40 million flezz that means nothing, except in this game. If I wanna have fun with it by bidding on useless ****, who is harmed? I grinded hard for that money, I should be able to do what I want with it.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 2:19PM | View CoreyJess's Profile | # | ||||||
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As I said previously, I’d rather see some sort of manual review than auto-closures on ‘questionable’ auctions.
And if people decide they’d like to start collecting junk, or simply have bragging rights that they paid 4.5 million flezz for Chinese Takeout… then what’s the harm? Player with this much disposable flezz could be seriously screwing up Kyoubai in other, less noticeable ways. Fighting over a single marble or teddy bear is really mundane and non-harmful. Are you looking to save some Flezz? Then stop on by Acid Flux’s Country Kitchen and Flea Market! Log in to see images! Fetishes, Glbumes, Tattoos & Hardware, all on sale! Save your hard-earned flezz by shopping at |
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 2:32PM | View Acid Flux's Profile | # | ||||||
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Everyone who is being a whiny **** is avoiding the actual concern of CZ which is transfer of Flezz between accounts, and it doesn’t have to be between alts. Yes you mention between alts which is relatively easy to monitor but what if I asked you for 10 million Flezz in an e-mail and you figured “What the hell”?
Flag auctions all you want it would require a fair deal of investigation to see if a Junk sale is a legitimate screwing around vs buddies helping one another out, or even just giving money to some random n00b for ****s and giggles.
I still say that unique junk sold by CZ itself would be a good sink that cannot be abuse at all. Dunatis edited this message on 02/01/2009 3:16PM[15:09] <Dunatis> The US is very good at not getting involved in major worlds wars until the last year or two and then giving itself all the credit [15:10] <&Phuquit> and it seems to me that the US feels so bad about turning up late for the last 2 world wars that it’s determined to be REALLY punctual for the next one |
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:15PM | View Dunatis's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:23PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Tesfan Posted:
mbumive truth in this post
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:31PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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Tesfan Posted:
Okay.
So, what I like to do for fun is change people’s avatars and titles that they paid real money for, with my “free” mod BP. Does that mean I should do it?
I also find it fun to ban people indiscriminately. Should I start with you, because fun is the intended purpose?
It’s a game. There is a desire to maintain balance between players. ET decided that selling marbles for 4 million isn’t balanced. So he changed it. If he finds it is unbalanced in a different direction now, he’ll likely change that as well.
Because that means more fun for more people.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:34PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
You’re making the wrong statement, not everybody is a mod thus not everybody is able to ban a player.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:38PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nicco Posted:
Okay.
I find it fun to transfer 4 million Flezz to someone else via a useless item, and they find it fun to transfer it back to an alt of mine the same way, allowing my alt who previously was really lame to buy lots of cool stuff and now be competitive in Domination.
Better?
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:41PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Don’t see what’s wrong with that, it’s not like individual character stats do too much for domination anyway. Domination is a lot more than that. (All raiding in which you depend on other characters) Johnny Mac edited this message on 02/01/2009 3:44PMLog in to see images! |
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:43PM | View Johnny Mac's Profile | # | ||||||
MC Banhammer Posted:
Yeah you’re right banhammer, CZ definitely needs to stop people’s alts from becoming useful.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:44PM | View FAIL's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
yes. better. Log in to see images!
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:44PM | View AntiRules187's Profile | # | ||||||
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FAIL Posted:
ET makes it quite clear that he doesn’t want people using Kyoubai to transfer flezz.
But okay, whatever. I’m going to shut up now (you see why I didn’t want to comment in this thread in the first place?) until ET posts something. If he does. MC Banhammer edited this message on 02/01/2009 3:54PM
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 3:54PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
MC Banhammer Posted:
Yeah I don’t really know why I made that post, transferring flezz was not the point of our auctions anyway. I don’t really care either way, it just seems like if CZ wanted to control prices they should make a store that auto sets the price in a certain range based on the demand for the products instead of an auction house where people set the price they pay
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 4:01PM | View FAIL's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
There have been cases of people getting auctions canceled because they were trying to outbid another player just for the sake of outbidding them, with no intention to transfer flezz to mess with the Leaderboards or Dom, this is the only thing that anyone who could be accused of “whining” want stopped. There has been no defense of using auctions to affect any other part of the game, and most of the posters here have made it clear (to me at least) that they don’t want that to happen (or at least agreeing that its the rules and aren’t trying to change them) by saying that it should be flagged instead of automatically canceled and the item and flezz be lost forever. You could even have any auction tagged by the game be held by the game until someone gets a chance to review it, or have someone try to make a case for it being legitimate. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 4:09PM | View MasterHaxxor's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted: Bidding wars between two players do not have any impact on another players game experience. I believe this is the primary point of disagreement.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 4:19PM | Czarnian bumbumi... | # | ||||||
There is no reason that the marble auction should have gotten marked as abuse. Let the people bid on a ****ing marble if they want to. Kyoubai is a flezz sink, and if someone wants to spend 40 million flezz on a 1 flezz marble, let them.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 4:22PM | View Kilroy's Profile | # | ||||||
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i thinki may have a simple idea/solutionthingy that basically blends some of you othres ideas together.
make it so you can’t auction Junk. Then have a moderator or s CZ staff or Evil Trout himself be the only one who can auction off Junk. but it’s rare junk. like a piece of junk that’s impossible to find anywhere else. NOWHERE ELSE AT ALL!!!
then they start the auction at the retail price and they auction it off. It’ll be a big sink.
example: pretend i am a mod okay.
i auction fried balls on the kyoubai. If i sell it to the ppwn shoppe it would only be worth, say, 50 so people start bidding and then they get the rare one of a kind item. while i the fakemod gets some . well since im a mod, i don’t really need so it doesn’t matter. Then the people who won the item cant put it up for auction cause it’s useless junk(see above) so they sell it to the PPWn shop for 50 and it gets put back into circulation. back to the mods that is. You drain your flezz for worthless junk. and if only the mod can make duplicates, so be it! noone else would be able to get it otherwise. and if they are doing it for collecting, let them collect these worthless junks.
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Posted On: 02/01/2009 4:38PM | View Jarwain's Profile | # | ||||||