The first link shows a nasty glitch. That’s really unfair.

What exactly is the second link?

Did you report it in the bug tool?

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

I still don’t follow in the second link. Claude frog is winning and there’s no identical bids listed. Only one 200k bid showing.

the first link is totally right and that’s a serious issue.

I think he’s saying that when he put his max bid in, it was 200,000. Someone else topped his 115,762 bid with a max of 200,000 also. It then showed Judge Claude Frollo as the high bidder, when it should have still been him.

quangntenemy Posted:

Yes

Could it be that Claude put his 200k max bid up earlier than you?

hmm probably not. 20 minutes between your two first bids

This happened to me as well. I had the highest bid fora while on an item with a certain max proxy bid. Someone came along and sniped it with the exact same bid.

My bid had been sitting for at least ten minutes when this identical max bid came in. In this situation, the previous bid should be pushed to the max and the new bid should be denied.

Evil Trout Posted:

Unless I’m mistaken, this is how proxy bidding is supposed to work?

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/automatic-bidding.html

Otherwise what should happen — the second bidder’s bid fails with no record and yours is suddenly bumped to the maximum? I think that’s weirder.

That’s not what that page says. It says you’ll be notified if you max bid is equalled, but doesn’t explicitly say whose bid should succeed.

The first bidder by time should always have priority unless their bid is exceeded. If tied, the new bidder should be told “Someone else has the same max bid as yours, so theirs takes precedence. You must outbid them to become the high bidder.” or somesuch.

It does “feel” weird, I bug reported a similar thing myself, but just hadn’t thought it through fully.

Easy way to see what happens:

Bidder A places bid for 10.000 – bid is set to 1,000 (min bid)

Bidder B places bid for 9,000 – bid jumps to 9,250 (bidder A winning)

Bidder C places bid for 10,000 – bid jumps to 9,500 (bidder C), then 9,750 (bidder A), then 10,000 (bidder C)

That is the breakdown for that final bidding war, but all you would see would be a jump from 9,250 for bidder A to 10k for bidder C. Not seeing the back and forth bidding war that is happening all the way up the chain is what is confusing. In the example above the jump from 1k to 9,250 had tons of back and forth bids that aren’t shown either.

It has nothing to do with who bid first, simply whose turn it is to bid when that max bid number hits.

MC Banhammer Posted:

More evidence: Google “proxy bidding” and tie. In most places the short text shows what we’re saying. For example:

http://www.projectwonderful.com/wecanhelp.php?id=6 :

in case of a tie for high bidder, the earlier bid takes precedence

Seconded. For graphical?

bidder A: 10000 flezz

bidder b: 10000 flezz

Evil Trout Posted:

Okay I’m convinced. I’ll see what I can do.

Should be just changing a >= to a >, unless the code is really weird.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Knowing ET, it’s probably weird.

It probably had variables like. hymen.bid and penetr.bid