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forumwarz Posted:
One concern that immediately presents itself is that 12 hours is really too short a timeframe for a legit auction. People have different timezones, the need to sleep and to put food on their family, so 12 hour auctions aren’t open to all. SG94 edited this message on 01/06/2009 4:32PM |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:31PM | View SG94's Profile | # | ||||||
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My concern remains, if you set your own starting price, what’s to stop this from being a way to stop the people atop the flezz leaderboard from using this as an almost-guaranteed way of transferring flezz to their own alts? You’d only need two of the leaders working in collusion to pull it off. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:34PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
True. This is why a closed economy (one were no money, items, or anything game-related can be interchanged between characters) was awesome, and made ForumWarz special.
Requesting Auction SubForum |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:38PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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I liked my proposal better, but it was probably a lot more work from a coding stand point. Also harder to exploit though so….
What’s to stop ET from blocking sales from one (legal) alt to another? |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:40PM | View aSh-gangSTA-685's Profile | # | ||||||
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handofg0d Posted:
That’s not my concern. My concern is two different people at the top of the leaderboards coordinating with each other to transfer large amounts of flezz to their alts, by setting the opening bid on a worthless file to an exorbitant price. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:45PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Okay that’s bad. But people transferring 100,000,000,000,000 from cheater account to a non-cheater seems a bit more important to me, game play and competitive fairness beats leader board. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:55PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
There’s a maximum minimum price based on the cost of the item.
Raepdog Posted:
Cheaters can’t use it. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:59PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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As I already wrote somewhere else: imo the auctions have to be completely anonymous and non-identifiable (e.g. all starting at rollover). Also there really should be certain limitations, e.g. maximum bids. And alts should not be allowed to participate in the player’s auctions. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 4:59PM | View FalCoN's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
Evil Trout proving once again why he has his job. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:04PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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Falcon, I highly doubt it’s going to be a real problem. Only completed files are being sold. If there is a max cap it would take a lot of effort to do any serious manipulation. The people with the energy and inclination for serious manipulation of the system, as simply not the same people who have taken the time to grind a lot of flezz. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:08PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
...Yet another reason why buying fourm visits needs to not be counted for full frontal cheating. After a month or so it’s worthless. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:09PM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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Crinkz Posted:
Un-cheating is still something on our list. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:15PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
The Trout’s on fire today! |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:34PM | View Jalapeno Bootyho...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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ok, what I see first is that you could have an alt not on the most flez list farm constantly for expensive harder to get .moar files, set a minimum buy-it-now price on it and buy it in the same second with your flezz alt, then sell it for a higher price. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 5:56PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wylin Posted:
ET said you can’t bid on your own stuff with any of your alts, so that isn’t even an issue. I think we are bound to see some short term attempts at working the system, we always do. It will depend on how broad the range for min/max cap ends up being. I don’t see it being a real problem. Hell, it’s not going to be any problem at all if the max cap is low enough.
Of course a low cap risks creating a situation where people just don’t use the auction house at all. I mean if I farm a great file and it takes 60 visits to complete and doesn’t sell for much? Why would I bother selling it and giving someone else a 60 visit advantage on me? I think this part is going to be especially true for Dom players – farming vs buying. Obviously if you are pistachio looping it is in your interest to skip farming grinds. Anyway you slice this it should be interesting to see how things go. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 6:55PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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imo un-cheating needs to work the same way cheating does – You “give up” whatever your advantage was (Doesn’t uncheat game dolphin for obvious reasons) and then you lose cheater status/get half your BP back? imo it would be fair.
You don’t use visits after the cap except for dom really and cheaters are banned from dom anyways so I think it would be fair. But then, I’m not CZ so it’s their decision in the end. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 7:01PM | View Master_Troll's Profile | # | ||||||
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scullyangel Posted:
Ah, I didn’t see that part, so we can do what I said but we need a partner. I wonder if I could find anyone to sell me a minimum (buyout) priced pink floyd right away so I don’t need to farm for it.
Klannies, hook me up!
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 7:05PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||
Master_Troll Posted:
what if someone uses up the 69 forum visits / million flezz? Does it just prevent them from getting the “uncheat” until they earn that much back? |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 7:05PM | View ghax's Profile | # | ||||||
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Master_Troll Posted:
I know it’s not really the thread for it, but uncheating should cost BP not refund them. Also, everything should be wiped except cred and storyline peens. Pretty much any other situation would be highly abusive. (If visits stay it would be simple to get the most forums visits. If flezz stays, same. If peens stay, that probably wouldn’t matter much since the only ones that have been enhanced by cheat ability are JingJing and the Turkey peens.) |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 7:10PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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generichaxor Posted:
imo it would be a step process (Give X flezz back/Give Back X visits) until you paid it all back.
It would have to work that way for 69 visits, anyways. You’d be waiting 18 days to give all your visits back. |
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Posted On: 01/06/2009 7:11PM | View Master_Troll's Profile | # | ||||||