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Sigh... 800 scoops worth of cards this week.
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I hate the top bracket. |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 9:39AM |
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I don’t understand why they don’t fix domination – what’s the fun in yet another theme week if the whole system is broken. Klan vanilla is ATM much worse than excessive gambling for antifreeze ever was. Nobody has played blackjack with all his alts, so it was mainly a problem in the top bracket. Now every ****ing alt participates in those vanilla raids and not only the top brackets are ****ed, but also many of the lower brackets, some of them with more than one vanilla tower. It’s possible to bring down one tower, but half a dozen when most of the unklanned players are so discouraged that they don’t even try? Or is this the reason why the game is called DOMINATION? |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 3:53PM |
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That’s the reason other klans should get into dom more because otherwise there is no way to take down towers… |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 3:58PM |
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The most logical solution to all of your dom concerns is just buy more alts than the other guy. |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:00PM |
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FAIL Posted:
Too bad, I think this is the EXACT reason they don’t fix Klan Vanilla.
To be able to compete you’re needed to make multis and join a raiding Klan. They gain money this way. |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:06PM |
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I have to agree that the current system is pretty broken. It’s just a matter of which klan can get the most alts to the most raids in a given week and how well the clan can coordinate a beatdown. The new method being used helps attract klans to raiding as not having to wait for forum rollover allows for fast and efficient scoop earning.
The towers thing is definitely problematic as they definitely discourage people to give up on the week. The problem is that carding down for the big raids is really problematic. To solve this problem several people have been leaving thier alts out of raids (ie the alt still participates but gets no scoops for it’s efforts). That seems to be resolving some of the problem with scoop towers but not everyone is going to sign on to that system of self-policing. Others like myself will let alts get scoops but then card them all down to zero in order to have a large number of destruction cards to play.
That’s because blasting is more fun than playing a **** load of mins at the last minute Log in to see images!
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:07PM |
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Fran Posted:
I think so too. And it’s a poor business move. Advertising a game as being “free to play” and allowing for this is incredibly insulting to the userbase which is shrinking in response. FW simply lacks the depth to require people to pay to compete, and a couple of dozen bucks from Ep 2 beta is not going to change that. |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:12PM |
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SG94 Posted:
This is in no way a strategic business decision. We are working on a fix that will address the klan vanilla and towers issues. This is a living product, always has been. I extensively look into what’s working, what isn’t, and taking in suggestions. We do theme weeks in an effort to test new features and consider for permanent implementation.
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:16PM |
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I don’t think it has anything to do with “we want money from alts”, although I’m sure that is a nice by product. When klan raiding first hit, no one used alts. Sisters and Flamers didn’t use alts. Knights brought in a few alts, mainly because certain players had other goals (cred/flezz or consecutive e-peens.) A few players started picking up alts specifically to contribute to raids when a main couldn’t or just to add to the total, still this was probably 6 – 7 players in a klan of 60 who had an extra alt or two. Alts really hit as a solution to big klan dominance when different players split off from Knights and Flamers. I started using alts because I was sick of trying to play well with others and adjust my schedule to fit theirs.
The point is, since the earliest vanilla CZ has pretty plainly stated that they like the idea of klans raiding. It has evolved to use alts in a highly productive way, but they endorsed it long before alts were used.
All that aside, yes, as most of us have been saying for months, something should be done. There are too many scoops, too many cards, too many towers whether they are alts or otherwise. I know BINGEBOT has been working on it, has some really cool ideas that I think will help. Honestly, I’m glad I’m not in his shoes, (well no, his job seems pretty damn cool actually), but I think it’s going to be a **** to find a good balance. Without some sort of wildcard flava the entire game comes down to luck of the draw. Everyone can plan perfect forum runs, gamble and solo vanilla. With no klan in the mix he who turns in a few scoops for cards and gets a Shield will be king. Period. Raiding must produce some sort of benefit or why do it? It’s just the trick of finding that spot where it’s not so strong it can’t possibly be overcome and not so weak that no one bothers.
EDIT: I clearly take way too long to reply. BB2015 hadn’t posted when I started. Domination is serious business! Log in to see images! scully edited this message on 07/16/2008 4:37PM |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 4:36PM |
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I have no doubt that B2015 is working on it, and will fix it. Still, it’d be nice to see a fix sooner… though, come to think of it, this season of dom is mostly already decided. Even if it was fixed tomorrow the top brackets are still 50% episode 2 beta. Arktor edited this message on 07/16/2008 7:30PM |
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| Posted On: 07/16/2008 5:00PM |
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BINGEBOT 2015 Posted:
Cool enough. As long as we can look forward to an eventual (hopefully not too far in the future) solution, we should all be willing to show some patience. Maybe try out several solutions at once, with players allowed to choose their “solution section”, to get an idea of what works. CB |
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| Posted On: 07/17/2008 12:47AM |
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Arktor Posted:
I came into domination late, last season, and still managed to come in second. I don’t think anyone should give up, just because we’re doing well in the first quarter of the game ;P |
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| Posted On: 07/17/2008 2:54AM |
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Pickled male reproductive organbum Posted:
First quarter? Make that “first half.” Season 1 was four months, and it’s been a month and a half. Besides, PD, you came in around the same time I did, and no one besides Barely Legal had very many medals. In sharp contrast, this season has seen the same people earning 3-4 medals every single week. For the first half of last season that was unheard of. Goth_Jesus edited this message on 07/18/2008 4:14PM |
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| Posted On: 07/18/2008 4:12PM |
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