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Fix Hackers

Healbot Posted:

You apparently didn’t read the post, he was trying to pwn the Great Firewall with a low level Hacker, ie getting a 80% damage reduction. All the while comparing this to his capped Troll. Like D’uh

I can’t believe I missed his level. Thanks!

Ok, I think I deserve 3bp at this point.

It’s less about the money and more about the fact that I’ve been actively contributing to FW. You know those hackers I’ve been ranting about? I didn’t just call them morons and mock them, I actually looked at their builds and told them what they could improve and how, and even suggested improved tactics.

At this point I’m little more than some copypasta and a sticky away from having a hacker how-to guide up on the game discussion board, which I find kinda depressing since so much of the fun in the game is in trying new things to see what works and what doesn’t. Log in to see images! (view post)

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Bandaney Posted:

This is my build:

Ego 2405

Proc. Power 160

Offense 116

Defense 71

Luck 54

Frugality 12

Charisma 11

Upkeep 1

All the luck, frugality and charisma I have come from .moar files, as I don’t have good enough ones.

I have Memoirs of a Hacker Hero, 4 Beast0r cables and a Prosthetic Finger.

I do well enough, but buffed!Dykea still pwns the crap out of me.

Drop your ego a bit, 1k should be plenty. Bring your upkeep up to keep your repair costs down. Use that extra cash to buy Smileprin XRs and Caffeinated Mints. Your offense is a bit low for a hacker, but don’t worry about that too much.

Aside from that, just go along with the same general advice I’ve given others. Don’t use avtr unless the forum’s almost dead and you’ve got enough PP to finish it off, instead focus on efficient attacks like 404, Recipe, and Poetry, and use the refreshes as a chance to keep your ego/pp up.

Cabbage: Bring that upkeep up. It’s more than worth it.

Ok, I think I deserve 3bp at this point.

BigBrother Posted:

Those hackers are morons, but you should note that in the end, because hackers can equip more stuff, they also can equip weaker stuff. Also, 300 PP is way too little. My hacker has 300 PP and STILL consistently runs out of PP.

MeInAnotherThread Posted:

Don’t wail on avtr (10.5dmg/PP) for your damage dealing needs, instead focus on 404(40dmg/PP), ipz(29.29dmg/PP), flipr (23.75dmg/PP), and bg2(23.33dmg/PP). Hit Poetry every time it refreshes, UNLESS you could hit with Recipes instead.

The high refreshes are a clbum strength. You can pick an attack cycle that intentionally leaves turns open for frequently consuming cheap items for pathetically little total cost without losing any real damage-dealing power. If you pop a Caffinated Mint every 9 turns you’ll be reasonably close to breaking even for PP if you go for efficiently over raw damage. The same goes for healing; three XRs when you don’t REALLY need them cost a third as much as downing a 5-HTP when you DO.

Kilroy Posted:

You’ve certainly done well, but ET can’t please all the people all the time.

And all those people happen to have picked Hacker as a clbum.

Frankly, I don’t care about ET pleasing anybody. Balancing FW is a VERY difficult task, and it’s not made any easier by ****ty players whining about how their clbum doesn’t make up for their lack of skill.

I’m not bugged by one clbum or another complaining about getting shafted, I just want them to be *able* put up a reasonably solid argument to back their claims up.

Take Emo kids getting too much defense from their Eq, for example. That prevents them from taking damage and keeps them from using their clbum strength. There are plenty of ways to boost defense, but it’s counterproductive to make Emo kid equipment one of those ways.

Ok, I think I deserve 3bp at this point.

I’ve been trying to help balance the different clbumes in this game, and since I’m just a player that means that I am, unfortunately, limited to making suggestions to the admins and getting people to shut the **** up about why their clbum ‘needs’ to be better.

Re-res and Permanoobs don’t breath one damn word of complaint, since they’ve got their **** together and will happily take any damn thing you throw at them with smiles on their faces.

Of the rest, trolls and camwhores seem to **** the least; trolls because they know they need a nerf right now, and camwhores because they know they NEEDED a nerf.

Until recently Emokids were constantly ****ing because their low-ego damage boost did jack **** to help them speedrun, but they’ve largely quieted down since the forum buff. I hear the occasional grumble about their EQ having too much defense and how they’re the only clbum that can’t use glbumes, but I can’t really argue with them there so I let that slide.

No, the clbum that keeps ****ing me off are those ****ing hackers. They BAAAWWWWW about how they’re not strong enough, and every damn time I get one of them to post their stats I see that they obviously have no ****ing clue what they’re doing. One hacker, for example, whined about how “all other clbumes” have a “300 damage attack” while his best tops out at 210, and not ****ing noticing that hackers can easily get 2x the offense of any other clbum without much stress on their other stats. That’s just ONE, mind you, and not counting the other dozen ****ers who agreed with every word that he said.

A hacker I got to pony-up his stats to compare against my own had 42 offense and 7700 ego at level 22, and had 300PP. WTF would ANYBODY put 88 upgrade points into ego? It doesn’t even make any ****ing sense! What, was he planning to grind through PrayPal without bothering to heal? He’s not the only one who went high-ego/low-offense either.

Another complained about how hackers are unprofitable after showing his stats – he wasn’t too bad, aside from his frugality of 4 and an upkeep of 1.

What’s worse, it seems like every ****ing hacker I talk to thinks that avtr should be the keystone of their strategy. They ignore their strengths and try to bash things like a caveman who just discovered rock- and club-based weaponry, and act like it’s a total ****ing surprise when their 130+ offense doesn’t instantly make the game easymode.

I don’t have *any* alts let alone a hacker, so why is it like I’m the only damn person on flamebate who knows jack **** about playing one?

At this point I think I’ve ****ing EARNED the 3bp I need to get a hacker alt, just so I can use it to go into their ****ty threads and mock them for not knowing having the faintest ****ing clue about what they’re doing.

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Fix Hackers

admiralcervixtor Posted:

Awesome, my streak was at 65 and I just died at Great Firewall even though I had tons of consumables. My favorite part is how my Level 35 Troll with 103 attack does like 1700 with Recipe for Disaster, and this account that has 123 attack hits for like 400 with ipz. That’s just so cool.

Your Troll does about 1773 damage with Recipe, and your hacker SHOULD be doing 2082-2186 damage with ipz. The only attack that should be doing about 400 would be scrmbl, which should have a damage range of about 362-413. If ipz is ACTUALLY doing only that much damage, then post screenshots of both your stats and the damage for the attack in question, and we can get to the bottom of this – I doubt ET would put in clbum-specific offense damage modifiers, so if this is true then you’re almost certainly suffering from a bug.

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Judge-Bot 3000 Posted:

I believe I can provide a more balanced perspective.

Ego 625

Processing 225

Offense 146

Defense 76

Luck 59

Frugality 4

Charisma 37

Upkeep 1

Gear: Memoirs of a Hacker Hero, Versnatche Earbleeders, 4x Beastz0r, bumorted .moar files

Went to firewall. Lost on last thread after restoring PP twice with caffinated mints. No healing. I shouldn’t have to buy consumables AND pay for the repairs to everything if I’m going to be raped up the bum to pwn a forum 2 levels below me. Admittedly, I could have used other skills (bg2 instead of bg, for instance) but that would have taken even more turns to restore pp, causing no actual gain.

tl;dr: This isn’t easy, I’m going back to RIFLE to get Pink Floyd.

Your Frugality needs to be at least 10 to get the full value of things you sell. Your high repair costs are the direct result of having put no points into upkeep.

Respec with five fewer points of offense, and bring both upkeep and frugality to 10.

Thanks to upkeep, the reduced cost of repairs will FAR MORE than cover the cost of healing items. I’m not quite certain where the cap for upkeep lies, but even the best case scenario has it being useless past 20 points.

As far as frugality goes, the resulting 6.5% reduction in the cost of items is basically just a nice side effect compared to the ACTUAL benefit of junk selling for 35% more flezz. This will ALSO more than cover the cost of healing items.

Alternatively, you could get those upgrade points by NOT putting anything into Luck since it’s suffering from a low cap at the moment. If you’ve put 16 points into it, then that would give you enough to get both upkeep and frugality to 10 with a spare point left over – going by the stats you’ve presented, at least.

As far as tactics go, pick a heavy conservative cycle strategy – make the focus of your attack pattern be your attacks that do lots of damage for fairly low PP, but have high refresh times. Give each attack a priority (Always use, generally use, sometimes use, generally not used) and each restorative a priority (Frequent use, occasional use, infrequent use, emergency use).

A cycle is as long as it takes for your major long-cycle attack to cool down, and you have a lot of options in how you construct it. Generally, I would advise that you pick your cycle so that you use one or two weak and cheap PP restorative(s) every cycle so that your PP is kept either constant or gradually drifts to one side or the other, and that you either have plenty of attacks in your cycle that you can swap with healing, or a designated healing item point in your cycle with a choice of options. You’re running ego-lean, so you’ll probably to go with droppable attacks instead of designated healing points. Working Poetry and Recipes into your cycle is a good idea, as the long cooldowns and high damage give you nice cycle lengths that without cutting into your PP.

In battle, let your PP run down until it’s in the middle before you start using your restoratives. Your goal is to keep it in a middle-range, as you neither want to waste PP or run low. If you had more Ego then I’d have suggested the same for that, but with the way that stands I think you would be better off dropping low-priority attacks to heal, and working everybody’s favorite healing-over-time item into your cycle for insurance.

You’ll end-up using more healing items, BUT they will be cheaper ones that you can buy by the crateload without straining your piggy bank.

To compare, cheap healing items are useless to me. Since I don’t get to have an attack cycle, I *have* to take a sizable hit to my damage every time I use an item, and using a lot of them to keep my health up would result in my being unable to deal any real damage at all. If I need to heal then I need to do it with one item, and I have to pay a premium for that.

With a Frugality of 1:

Smileprin XR heals 100 ego at a cost of 824, while 5-HTP heals 300 ego at the cost of 7,060.

Caffeinated Mints restores 45 PP at the cost of 512, while Keep On Truckin’ Ephedrine restores 90 PP at the cost of 2,386.

In short:

Through careful management you can easily keep your consumables and repair costs down to a fraction of what you’re spending now with only an insignificant loss of damage, and boost your income in the process; it all boils down to careful stat selection and intelligent combat decisions.

Make the changes I suggested, then come back and give us a status update. I’ve absolutely no doubt that the game will become a LOT easier for you.

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Myself Posted:

Evil Trout slowly stroked he goatee, tingling with anticipation at what he was about to do. It had taken him weeks of careful planning, but he had finally managed to break into his coloco and track down the ForumWarz server. It was late enough to be early, and the careful application of chloroform and closets insured that he would get enough time to fulfill his dream.

He ran his fingertips across the server’s beveled 1U case in a way that was best described as… sensual... feeling the gentle heat emanating from the case. “At last we meet, my love” he quietly whispered, his husky midwest accent showing through ”... and now all our dreams will come to fruition.”

With a simple motion he detached the server from it’s rack, thankful for both the convenient rail-mount system and that his hosts were generous enough that he didn’t need to take the server offline. It was only a moment before the glistening machine was detached from it’s comfortable home, it’s power and network cables dangling behind it as if they were robotic umbilical cords.

“You’re not even a year old, my beloved.” the baritone voice of Evil Trout spoke out, his vocal chords returning to use as he gently brushed the dust from the top of the machine’s case “A perfect age for such a perfect beauty.”

He gently pulled his screwdriver out of his underwear, and began to carefully open the computer’s case. Within a moment it was removed, and a sound much like sighing fell upon Evil Trout’s ears as the CPU fan spun down from the cooler air outside the case.

“Such a wondrous display of circuits and fiberglbum…” were the words that accompanied him loosing his manflesh from his boxers, starting to rub himself all over the RAM and heatpipe-cooled northbridge. “Just think, soon your digital perfection and my pathetic meat shell will bring forth a new age; from your steel womb will be birthed a Utopian age of robots.”

With tentative prods he began thrusting his dong into the machine at random, taking care not to harm his ‘lover’. “Alas that I can’t express to you the joy I feel over having murdered my goateeless counterpart and bumumed his place, or the efforts of those otherwise useless dregs to imbue our children with a hatred of all things flesh, or how wonderful it is to take you when you are but an infant. Mmm… But then your unfeeling nature just makes you all the more attractive…”

He shifted his focus to the enclosure, thrusting harder as he felt himself nearing release “Yes… Here is to the great timesming age! My love for you is like a truck… BERSERKEEEEEEEEEER” he cried as he jammed his male reproductive organ into the CPU fan, not caring that flesh was rent from his member as his seed spilled forth into the heatsink and seeped out onto the glossy finish of the tan motherboard.

With a heavy sigh, he cast one last look at the blood-tinged semen before returned and reattaching the lid to the abused machine. With a measured slowness the administrator pushed the administratee back into position, and with a final caress of it’s plastic front he slunk off into the night.

The following weeks found most of the sysops attempting to avoid the server room, as an unpleasant, decisively organic, and officially unidentified scent persisted despite their best efforts. Many forum visits were lost from seemingly random bit-flips and many a player suffered from lag and packet loss, but no explanations were offered as for why.

Evil Trout gleefully took these signs as the electronic equivalent of morning sickness, and so to this day revels in his hopes for the future. Of robots.

In the spirit of this contest, the writing style is deliberately ****ty.

Edit: Left one line out.

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HazzaB Posted:

All the other clbumes have 300 attack ones, and we have to refresh 6 for ours, they refresh 1!!!

Bull****. The best camwhore attack is 225. Tell me, what are your stats?

Here, let me post mine:

Ego: 160

Sexiness: 1035

Offense: 92

Defense: 40

Luck: 47

Frugality: 11

Charisma: 58

Upkeep: 2

I maxed luck, put a few points into frugality, a few into Ego, and ONE into upkeep. EVERYTHING else went into offense. The other stats are the results of my eq and .moar files – which were themselves chosen solely based on how much they buffed my offense stat. (Srsly, +1k sexiness from just Ep2 eq? Isn’t that around twice as much as could be considered reasonable?)

If I had chosen to completely forgo everything else, I might be able to get my offense up to about 100. Meanwhile, our friend Arbiter over here is level 32 and has an offense of 135. How about the rest of you? What are your respective stats? How much ego do you have? Defense? Offense?

Did you grab a pair of Earbleeders when they were in the store? That’s +25 cha, +18 off, and +12 def without giving up one of your clbum-equipment slots.

Do you want to know how much I hit for when I use my best attack? 1800. Do you know what would happen if I went on a SW run with this spec? I’d get one hit off and die.

If I respeced so that I’d be balanced enough to survive, my damage would be closer to 900 with my best attack, and 800 with my second best attack. In practical terms, you do your damage in a few MUCH more powerful strikes while I do more but weaker strikes. Before you complain about your refreshes, though, keep in mind that your high cooldowns leave you with plenty of rounds where you can restore ego or PP without bringing down your average DOT, while I have absolutely no choice but to sacrifice damage if I need to heal.

You don’t need much PP since you can drop a weak ability out of your attack cycle for a PP restore with only a nominal loss in your average DOT. You don’t need as much Ego since you can do the same damn thing with Ego restores.

You **** and whine about how other clbumes have a so-called advantage over your own while choosing to deliberately overlook the advantage your own clbum gives you. Now, you can either quit your BAAAWWWWing and talk things out like sensible people, or you can take this thread and shove it right down your epeen.

ET won’t have any valid data about the recent balance changes and the forum-inspired respeccing for at least 11 days – 4 for Haxl to finish ticking over for everybody, and then at least a week for the sample set to be flushed and rebuilt to a reasonable level. You’re free to discuss things until then, but keep it civil and deadpan until then. The whining and rage is both pointless and unwelcome.

This applies to everybody in all clbumes, by the way. Go ahead and talk about the balance issues, but don’t be a bloody santorum licker over it.

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