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CrinkzPipe Posted:
Ok guys, I’ma make a new online game called “Forum Warz”(See? There is a space separating the two words it MUST be different eh?)
Here’s the description:
“Forum warz is a parody role-playing game that takes place on the Internet. In fact, Forum warz is the Internet…in game form. bumume the role of one of five Internet personas: Camwhore, Troll, Hacker, Permanoob or Emo Kid, each with their own special attacks, abilities and personalities. Play in story mode and pwn your way through a dense world of mystery, intrigue and Internet idiocy. Or test your skillz against others in various player-versus-player challenges.”
I mean, it isn’t a EXACT copy of the game Forumwarz so it’s a parody right? |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 11:53AM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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I agree that this is pretty blatant plagiarism.
One thing to consider though, is that the majority of the content of a forum is what people submit during the building phase, not the description. So we will end up with something that is 99% not plagiarized.
We’ll discuss at our meeting. We might be able to get away with just changing the description slightly. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:05PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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If it’d help, I’d be happy to write a less lazy description… keep the idea but excise the copied part.
e.g. “The IEDAB is a scientific foundation, created to conduct cutting edge research into the field of the destruction of the Earth; determining and categorising the methods by which the Earth may be destroyed. It is also tasked with closely observing the current state of the Earth and tracking the frequency with which it is destroyed.” |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:23PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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Also, if we change it there will be some sort of penalty. I don’t think we’d want people doing this every week. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:25PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
no peen imo |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:27PM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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man-man Posted:
That’s inherently different than the current description. The current one includes tracking how many times the Earth has already BEEN destroyed, and there are many submissions which reference that. Changing to “the frequency with which it is destroyed”, which is currently zero, invalidates a lot of those entries.
Also, this: CrinkzPipe Posted:MC Banhammer edited this message on 10/19/2009 12:38PM |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:37PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Ok, so swap back in some of the original wording. I was aiming to not use any of the first one, but if a hybrid is better than whatever…
Just trying to help resolve this, I bumume that’s the preferred response (as opposed to getting ****y or loudly pointing out the rampant copyright abuse that we know and love as Itembuildr image subs) |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 12:55PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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CrinkzPipe Posted:
Posting for no peen. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 2:13PM | AIDS woman's genitals | # | ||||||
man-man Posted:
I’m surprised at how man-man handle this, which is pretty well. And yes, the HTDTE page is hilarious. Still, it doesn’t mean someone can submit that idea as his own, let alone win it.
As for suspiciously quick submissions, if those aren’t yours (and I believe the admins can verify that,) then fine. Those logos are low quality ones which can be patched up within 30 minutes or less anyway. I’m sorry for directing my suspicion of foul play at you. After ghax’s one-man alt abuse, it’s easy to believe only one person is responsible for all the wrong things that happen.
Now if we’re going to fix this, apart from changing the description, the forum name, International Earth Destruction Advisory Board, must be changed as well. Because that too, was written by Mr.Sam Hughes. Even the word “Geocide” was thought up by him.
I offer another solution, that is contacting Mr.Hughes himself, asking if he’s okay for ForumWarz to expand upon his joke. Who knows? This could benefit both parties involved. It won’t hurt to try, will it? Kittysan edited this message on 10/19/2009 6:40PM |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 6:32PM | View Kittysan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Skyman747 Posted:
I’m going to have to agree with this.
Yes it’s plagirism, and that’s terrible, but there’s no need to make a huge ****ing deal of it.
There’s been worse forum ideas than this one and even ones that have won with a more controversial way than plagiarism. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 6:46PM | View SanDyk's Profile | # | ||||||
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Maybe man-man is Sam Hughes, ever thought of that? |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 6:50PM | View Johnny Mac's Profile | # | ||||||
Johnny Mac Posted:
It’ still illegal though. If we go my INCIT rules at least. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:08PM | View mterek's Profile | # | ||||||
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SanDyk Posted:
Making a thread is making a huge deal of it? Oh ****, we are all making a huge deal over Evil Trout/Wechall/incit/Forumwarz everytime we post about it.
It does seem like a pretty funny site that it is possible that people have read before. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:08PM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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hey guys I have a great idea, lets make a huge deal out of everything that happens on an online game that doesnt really matter in the grand scheme of things. sound good?
good. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:25PM | View Melanin-Enhanced...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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You know what… I kinda said I didn’t want to do this, I didn’t. But I think we should also ensure we have proper permission to use the following images:
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/ING/IG1944_a.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31w74hySh7L._SL500_AA280_.jpg http://cdn.stumble-upon.com/mthumb/173/16399173.jpg http://www.synthmania.com/Famous%20Sounds/Images/Old_computer.jpg http://www.geekologie.com/2008/05/16/awesome-tattoo.jpg http://img12.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/d/f/1/b/d/df1bd17ff10d6db8ea4f65359f9d692f_full.jpg http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc335/th_05928_crissymorandc729_4_040_123_335lo.jpg http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/347/11vm4.jpg http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj86/waynehanzdus/200608281901-pix1.jpg http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2008/04/11/15/28-TOPIX_NAILED_SKULL.highlight.prod_affiliate.4.jpg http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/07/31/international/31holocaust.xlarge.jpg http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc594/th_GirlsNextDoorHalloween02_594lo.jpg http://www.clients.squareeye.com/uploads/croatia/CLpicture.jpg http://idol-box.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/fukunaga_china_1_05.jpg http://www.craphound.com/images/DSCN0309.jpg http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/flux-capacitor-merkaba-hexagram0.jpg http://api.ning.com/files/xtJCQ4BLK0OG2WCVlIfSK5xDwUMo0-gN2*Q1Ze07ti0_/money.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qDI615ixLmQ/RzRdrl4XUtI/AAAAAAAAAS8/lL07Y7D5RvQ/s400/Covered.jpg
All of which were copied into Forumwarz directly enough for the comparative image search provided by the good folks at tineye.com to find the original image. Maybe not always the original source, but it shows they’ve been copied from somewhere.
Blatant and uncredited copying from anywhere and everywhere is the de facto standard for user generated content on this site, we all know that. I know that doesn’t make it any more valid, but I do feel like I’m having a lot more hostility directed at me for this than is really proportional for what I’ve actually done, especially when compared to the complete lack of care about all of the image subs above. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:46PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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Shii Posted:
Finally someone said this! I… Jesus people are stupid thinking that everyone is copying them. Yes Fingerz before you go yes I accused you long ago bumhurt is over blah blah.
This is srs, like srs. Someone took an idea and pbumed it off as their own which is against the rules. ****ty forum idea and unfunny bull**** aside, and the probably sore bum of who ever started this thread, he does indeed have a point. The forum should be void, and probably for legal reasons deleted.
As for the bad ideas being submitted its easy to have 500+ bad ideas and submit them all really fast because you have a big buildr score. Its as if.. having almost unlimited submissions is… bad?? |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:46PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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man-man Posted:
Um, okay other people did **** also. But you word for word copied from another site. Putting up a bunch of other examples does not make it right. Taking an image and working it into your logo, modifying it, and changing it is not nearly as bad as taking another person’s ideas word for word and pbuming it off as your own.
Also items are cited most of the time, information is given that they are not your own. You did nothing of the sort. Raepdog edited this message on 10/19/2009 7:49PM |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:48PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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Raepdog Posted:
I believe I said right there, I know it’s no more valid or right. At this point I’m entirely beyond caring whether the forum gets edited, voided, deleted, whatever. Just saying the problem’s a little more endemic than that’s going to solve. I’m can see I’m in the wrong here, but I don’t see that anyone running the show can claim the moral high ground given the lack of action against equally ‘wrong’ things.
As for “working it into your logo, modifying it, and changing it”, the examples posted weren’t edited at all beyond a simple crop – similar enough for an automated process to see that they’re the same. They’re just as direct a copy as taking a funny idea about Earth-based destruction and submitting it as a forum, if not more direct. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:57PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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Lee_Harvey_Oswald Posted:
This is the internet, none of you are making money off of it, or are you benefiting other than through internet achievements. why dont you all stop arguing and like, I don’t know go do something else. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 7:58PM | View Melanin-Enhanced...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Lee_Harvey_Oswald Posted:
Because then I’d keep on being wrong, and there’d be no-one to tell me otherwise. |
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Posted On: 10/19/2009 8:00PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||