MeatLoafFan Posted:

3 Reasons that that is false.

1) Forumwarz has not trolled anyone.

2) Most of the base user is over 18.

3) It’s Canadian. Wait…actually that’s a good question, is it hosted in Canada? or in the US?

Fine 2 reasons. But the first is enough, it’s individual people.

1) Plenty of things on FWZ can be construed as “trolling” to certain groups or individuals. Half of the forums are making fun of some group or another. And while that might not be what the law is MEANT to be used for, it will still be abused in that way.

2) Most, not all I was well under 18 when I first started playing. Not to mention that again, the law is likely to be misused.

3) True. JB is an eskimo and Trout is a polar bear.

Amphitrite Posted:

You don’t harbum someone when they’re physically in front of you, don’t harbum them when they’re online.

Yes, but the thing about being online is that there’s proof here. If I went up to you irl, and insulted you, it’s perfectly acceptable. But would this make doing it online being illegal?

Amphitrite Posted:

The bill is more meant for that kind of case.

The bill should be amended to exclusively include the continued harbumment of a specific individual, singling them out, and using insults based on information that they have not willingly shared with you.

But even then, the bill shouldn’t pbum. If I told you that my spouse committed suicide, then you start trolling me in GRP, it’s my fault for telling you in the first place.

However if you post my name & address (as in the boxxy example), AFTER death threats have been made, there should be some kind of protection.

But we all know that going after the end user never works.

Also, this law is lacking a lot of detail, if an american citizen, trolls another american citizen, on a Canadian hosted website, will it still apply?

Seems like inanity incarnate. If pbumed I expect that many sites would be hosted outside of America.

MeatLoafFan Posted:

Yes, but the thing about being online is that there’s proof here. If I went up to you irl, and insulted you, it’s perfectly acceptable. But would this make doing it online being illegal?

Agreed that the bill probably won’t pbum due to the numerous loop holes it has. It shouldn’t make it illegal though with idiots running the states it probably would be.

If its repeated and it was affecting them in their rl. Example: Posted all over facebook and everyone at work/school starts harrbuming him/her/them and this happens more than once. Whatever happened to good conduct and morals anyways…nvm things like these need to be runned by the site owners/administrators/moderators rather than by a federal law that can be abused.

Its an american bill, thus it shouldn’t affect any other countries. There isn’t a international internet tribunal (comparing to the international war tribunal set from WWII).

I honestly don’t care if it gets pbumed or not. You can’t enforce something like this.

Cheins Sanchez Posted:

I honestly don’t care if it gets pbumed or not. You can’t enforce something like this.

It’s like download music, there’s not enough police officers.

A-Sat Posted:

You can’t enforce it. You just re-host the sites somewhere else, then the US can’t do anything, unless it’s “national security” and they send the CIA in. But it would still be too much trouble. The internet belongs to everyone, every country. How can you pbum legislation on a collectively-owned, very vaguely defined, nearly endless amount of data?

Eeeexactly. The internets is not just the US. You can’t say it’s illegal to do something on it unless it’s worldwide. Unless congress thinks that since we’re the only world power, we say what goes. Riiight. Anyway, yeah, this isn’t gonna pbum, and it never really had a chance. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be in my trailer. Log in to see images!

Edit: Fixed a lotta major typos. Log in to see images! Runox edited this message on 05/19/2009 10:27PM