MC Banhammer Posted:

Great news. Criminals should be punished.

The only crime here is that copyright has been allowed to extend to the point that content producers have seemingly unlimited rights to the use of a product after it is released.

dobnits Posted:

Alot of the schlock that is popular in “comedy” these days is in fact, at the misfortune of others.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Ummm… No. That’s an opinion of yours that an injustice is occurring. A “crime” is something which is actually against the law.

The crime is that the RIAA and MPAA extorted and bribed their way to a position of legal prominence and that no investigation or charges have been brought. Some states have considered a RICO investigation but nothing panned out. At this point in time they use harbumment and lawsuits to try and scare the world into paying for every single digital copy.

Inertia Posted:

Did they finally change copyright laws in Sweden?

Those guys used to be my heroes, man… it’s sad to watch them fall.

I’m a Swede and I’m very sad because of this. I mean, we Swedes used to be sorta cool once. Now we’re only a big bucket of fail. Fail and blondes. Log in to see images!

I wish they woulda been able to afford that floating island a few years back that they were going to make into their own country with no copyright laws. That was an awesome idea and I’m sorry for them that it failed.

Shii Posted:

It’s not like making that island would exempt them from other countries’ copyright legislation though. The only thing it would accomplish is ensure no creative person would ever go live there because they’d receive no protection whatsoever.

It’s sad that people who are creative expect payment.

Shii Posted:

I suppose I fail to understand how stealing someone’s work is any different than a mechanic building a car and then someone walking off with it just cuz they want it and are too selfish/cheap to pay.

The fact of the matter is that it’s only acceptable as long as you’re the ones getting the free stuff. If you ever try to make anything on your own, rather than sit in a cubicle all day, you’d get the picture.

Building a car is way different than music. A car would cost a lot more, and require more work. While anyone who saved up a bit of money, and had talented friends could do music.

Plus, it may be just me, but from the way you typed your sentence you are making it out to be people are taking the work and putting it off as their own.

Shii Posted:

Do you have any comprehension of how much it costs to make a CD?

Hiring a studio to record costs $100-200 an hour, for starters. The mechanical license in order to produce it costs $.091 per song, per album. I.E. a 10 song album = $.91. If you’re going to sell 100,000 albums that’s a cool $91,000.

Furthermore, the materials for the CDs themselves cost another dollar per, so tack another $100,000 on there. Add in costs for marketing, publicity, hiring the musicians, covering any legal fees, etc. the grand total is upwards of half a million dollars.

You think that a CD is better to steal than a car? Think again.

EDIT: I’m not saying they’re taking it and saying that they produced it; it’s just another one of the exclusive rights. The only difference is saying you own it infringes all the rights, and stealing copies for yourself just infringes the distribution and reproduction rights.

EDIT: Obviously this is mbum-produced, fullscale professional CDs too. I don’t mean your crappy indy label stuff.

You don’t need a “studio”, you are able to do that **** from home. And with todays environment, you don’t even need CDs.

Shii Posted:

It’s not like making that island would exempt them from other countries’ copyright legislation though. The only thing it would accomplish is ensure no creative person would ever go live there because they’d receive no protection whatsoever.

I doubt they’d make their own country have extradiction.

Shii Posted:

In order to be viable, other governments would have to formally recognize them, and that isn’t likely considering that the purpose of the country would be to have a safe haven outside of the law.

Brittan claimed sealand was not under their laws aparently, I had to re-look it up.. june of 07 article:

http://www.thelocal.se/6076/