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Because I’m sick of hearing all of the ****ing about how much ep 2 and BPs cost, I’ll break down for you what it would cost to host and run this game.
Server: Once you add all of the features that you’d need to run FWZ it costs $2,728. Bandwidth: http://www.t1shopper.com/us/oh/Toronto.shtml $550 – $1,200 a month in Toronto CA. Backup Software: http://www.innodb.com/hot-backup/order/ $500 a year. Web Hosting for the .com: Usually around $60 a year. Art and other commercial or licensed work: God only knows.
So let’s sum up my quick estimate: $3,278 up front. bumuming the cheapest for everything else: $6,600 a year to run it.
So for the first year that they have everything running it would cost them almost $10,000 to set everything up.
Even charging $10 a person for Ep2 that would take 1,000 people to just pay for it. That doesn’t include all of the time and effort they put in, or money for media.
I’d like to see any one of you do all of this. DesdiPhoenix edited this message on 12/08/2008 2:51PMom nom nom Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 2:47PM | View DesdiPhoenix's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 2:50PM | View Fingerz's Profile | # | ||||||
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DesdiPhoenix Posted: The fwz server can be built out of old, decommissioned desktop computers. $0. DesdiPhoenix Posted: The **** are you smoking… T1 is just an outdated buzzword. T1 is slower than most home broadband connections. Shop bettar. Also, fwz uses colo. Shop for colo, I’m too lazy. (pre-post edit) Actually, fwz uses theplanet.com dedicated server hosting. They’ve got a DS plan for a multi-core, multi-CPU server (which fwz uses) for up to $299/month on a reasonable server. So that definitively answers that question. DesdiPhoenix Posted: Oh, smooth move, find the most expensive backup software you can find, and bumume CZ uses it. PROTIP: Everything software-wise in *nix is free. Backup software is free as well. Doesn’t take much to export a MySQL database and tar|gzip everything. DesdiPhoenix Posted: Again, what are you smoking, I want some. Domains are $10 each a year. Not even worth calculating. I’m dirt poor as **** and I own 4 domains. DesdiPhoenix Posted: This may be relevant to calculate. DesdiPhoenix Posted: Maybe $500 up front including hosting (colo) startup costs. DesdiPhoenix Posted: I came up with about half that, $3,610 a year including domains, not including paying staff or profits. And that’s bumuming the most expensive dedicated server hosting.
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:03PM | View FalconFour's Profile | # | ||||||
FalconFour Posted:
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:09PM | View shrtcat's Profile | # | ||||||
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FalconFour Posted:
Yeah, cause that’s what I’d use to host a game. Even bumuming they had them laying around.
FalconFour Posted:
K, that works too.
FalconFour Posted:
PROTIP: Learn to ****ing read. http://blog.forumwarz.com/2008/8/26/why-episode-2-will-cost-money
FalconFour Posted:
Fine, you can have that one too.
FalconFour Posted:
Thanks.
FalconFour Posted:
Let’s just bumume they bothered to make a server that was worth having/using. I know I wouldn’t use some crap I had laying around to host my site.
FalconFour Posted:
Without figuring in artwork and media for the site. And even using your own numbers. They would have to have 360 people pay for Ep2 just to break even. That doesn’t include the money for the back up software that they say they use. And forgive me if I think that the creators of this awesome site, that you spend your time blasting them about, deserve a little money. The people that run this clearly loose money overall amd making this game would take forever.
Before you point out that they have ads on the site, you should know from hosting your own sites that they pay next to nothing.
Also, you get to play Ep1 for free. If you really have that much of a problem, don’t buy Ep2. Just play it for free and walk away.
And throughout all of your arguments you have yet to name a time that you hosted a game like this on your own free for everyone to use.
Till then shut the **** up, or get the **** out. om nom nom Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:23PM | View DesdiPhoenix's Profile | # | ||||||
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Let’s just bumume they bothered to make a server that was worth having/using. I know I wouldn’t use some crap I had laying around to host my site. Hello? Hello, is anybody home? Think, McFly… think. Did you not notice that ThePlanet is a dedicated server provider? They provide the server WITH the service. There is no “building the server” involved. They take from a package deal. Even if they did, proper optimization of an old desktop computer could easily fill the position of the fwz server. DesdiPhoenix Posted: Yeah, they do, but they’d deserve more money if they take five seconds and find the points where they could be doing things cheaper, instead of throwing money at every problem and pbuming the cost along to us (i.e. overpriced commercial backup software that doesn’t even ****ing work properly).
fwz blog Posted: Yeah, because it really does a great job of backing up without interrupting service. 504 Gateway Timeout much?
DesdiPhoenix Posted: Right, they pay next to nothing (especially Google), but much-larger sites like MySpace, and pretty much anywhere else you go on the internet, do it for completely free, just on advertising. Somehow they pull it off, why can’t fwz? Especially with such a small company and relatively low operating costs (contrary to your FUD OP).
And throughout all of your arguments you have yet to name a time that you hosted a game like this on your own free for everyone to use. hostfile.org was running for 2 years for free, off donations alone (not even ads). It’s not a game, but it did serve a ****-ton of hits per second after it got going. Barely made a cent off the site, but it was able to run for at least 2 years without begging a single person for money.
Till then shut the **** up, or get the **** out. Gotta top off your flawed argument with a “shut the **** up gtfo”, sign of a true bumhurt. Log in to see images! Log in to see images! http://falconfour.com/bumhurt-cinematic |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:38PM | View FalconFour's Profile | # | ||||||
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this thread sucks
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:40PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:42PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:43PM | View Theo de Raadt's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nicco Posted:
OH **** I FORGOT
RP FORUM
THAT MEANS WE CAN HAVE NO INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION
ONLY GAY PORN
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:44PM | View FalconFour's Profile | # | ||||||
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@DesdiPhoenix: Ignore FalconFour. It’ll make your life much less stressful, and you won’t be missing anything.
I'M A SIG-DISABLING COCKMONGLER
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:44PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Are you ****ing serious.
I’d think you’d be telling me to ignore DesdiPhoenix for the same reasons.
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:47PM | View FalconFour's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nicco Posted: BRAWWRR! |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:48PM | View Sperman's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
lol i love you
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:49PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Yeah, I’m begning to think you’re right.
I just hate seeing people’s hard work discredited like that. I used to host a ****ty game for my friends. Didn’t last long, but I remember what it was like to put up with countless complaints about how slow it was or glitches. It’s a thankless task that I’m glad CZ does. om nom nom Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:49PM | View DesdiPhoenix's Profile | # | ||||||
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also matt fell for the trap
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:50PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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FalconFour Posted:
We’ll give you two simple options: *) make your own version of FWZ and gtfo *) just GTFO
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:52PM | View Theo de Raadt's Profile | # | ||||||
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PS. lol@gayporn. om nom nom Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:52PM | View DesdiPhoenix's Profile | # | ||||||
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Theo de Raadt Posted:
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Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:53PM | View Theo de Raadt's Profile | # | ||||||
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Theo de Raadt Posted:
im down with this fine upstanding member of society
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