Flezz sink peen would take the form of a series of increasing tiers (2m , 5m , 10m , 20m , etc… ) so it’s a long term solution.

Another thing that could cost money – access to ‘rare’ forums Trident, Pony:Kids, PP:ROTM, non clbum specific forums for those who want. Something about only being able to visit the forums via a proxy or under an alias of some kind.

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

Flezz sink peen would take the form of a series of increasing tiers (2m , 5m , 10m , 20m , etc… ) so it’s a long term solution.

Another thing that could cost money – access to ‘rare’ forums Trident, Pony:Kids, PP:ROTM, non clbum specific forums for those who want. Something about only being able to visit the forums via a proxy or under an alias of some kind.

Please no. Clbum specific forums are one p. awesome thing.

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

Flezz sink peen would take the form of a series of increasing tiers (2m , 5m , 10m , 20m , etc… ) so it’s a long term solution.

And it is still a stupid idea. We need a better and more challenging game, not more “achievements”.

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

Max delivery + earnings from jobs. That’s another 70k or so per day. This in itself is a reason why the top of the flezz leaderboard is unlikely to change in the near future – players going for the job points peen, who already have the flezz peen.

Yes, this is absolutely true and for active endgame players this requires a sacrifice. You cannot job board and pistachio loop. Yes, a player can win without pistachio in most brackets, but certainly not in all. Additionally, there have definitely been days when twelve 5 point jobs are not available, this means either sacrificing job points or solo vanilla. (Yes, I know this only applies to Dom players.)

Overall, I just think that by definition a “leaderboard” should not hold a built in penalty. Some outside adjustment factor should be chosen instead.

Look at it from the perspective of other “leaderboards”. Would it make any sense if the person with the highest Forumbuildr score was taxed a submission each day they held the top spot? Or the top forums pwned was taxed a visit each day? Or most INCIT wins had one of their posters deleted daily? I need all of those peens, but I’m very aware that something like that would be an awful idea. Over time it leads to a base where everyone has everything and there is no reason to put in the effort because you can just plod along and someone else will eventually be penalized enough to hand you what you want.

Outside goals that force a player to choose/sacrifice make more sense. Yes, that means someone can choose to hog a board, but in choosing to do so, they must sacrifice achieving some alternate goal. The type of player who only does one thing is the type of player who will get bored and end up inactive, thus self eliminating.

I was hit by the Obama tax for almost 3 million. OMG, why did I not get a special “Obama whored me out of millions!” peen? Why didn’t I get more notice to hold deliveries. Blah blah blah. That’s silly. The Obama tax was funny. Maybe it should have only hit those who voted for him, since they basically agreed to the conditions by voting, I don’t know. I didn’t purchase any items, anyone who did lost more than the tax hit for since items resell for far less than a 25% hit. I did have items that I hadn’t sold prior to the tax that I sold after it hit.

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

I suggest the Great Bank of Spendfriend goes bankrupt so everyone goes to zero flezz and starts again.

Only if Big Sister requires all junk items in the characters inventory to be taxed 100% to provide for a bailout. Maybe give everyone back their flezz up to 100,000?

Good idea imo, just it didn’t factor in the junk hoarders.

was Posted:

And it is still a stupid idea. We need a better and more challenging game, not more “achievements”.

A game where scarcity is an issue (i.e. you don’t have enough currency to purchase everything you could possibly want every time you’re made aware of it) is a better game.

I personally don’t believe that it’s possible to make a “web RPG” challenging, short of putting in content that’s designed for levels above the current cap, because any other challenge be made trivial by simply “grinding more.” I think trying to make this game challenging is a lost cause, ultimately the goal should be to make it entertaining.

scullyangel Posted:

Look at it from the perspective of other “leaderboards”. Would it make any sense if the person with the highest Forumbuildr score was taxed a submission each day they held the top spot? Or the top forums pwned was taxed a visit each day? Or most INCIT wins had one of their posters deleted daily? I need all of those peens, but I’m very aware that something like that would be an awful idea. Over time it leads to a base where everyone has everything and there is no reason to put in the effort because you can just plod along and someone else will eventually be penalized enough to hand you what you want.

Well I hadn’t thoroughly thought it through, but I did intentionally leave which leaderboard(s) you get the flezz tax for ambiguous in my initial suggestion. So, if you’re top of the INCIT leaderboard, you get a flezz tax (it may be a very small tax, to compensate for the fact that you’re the single and only player who will ever have this peen, but might increase if more players achieve it) If you wanted the progressive flezz peen(s) quicker, you’d want to help someone get to the top of your leaderboard to take your place.

I do understand though I just described the essentials of system which would work, but not necessarily one that would be fun to play with.

I was hit by the Obama tax for almost 3 million. OMG, why did I not get a special “Obama whored me out of millions!” peen? Why didn’t I get more notice to hold deliveries. Blah blah blah. That’s silly. The Obama tax was funny. Maybe it should have only hit those who voted for him, since they basically agreed to the conditions by voting, I don’t know. I didn’t purchase any items, anyone who did lost more than the tax hit for since items resell for far less than a 25% hit. I did have items that I hadn’t sold prior to the tax that I sold after it hit.

You had the flezz peen already, and flezz totals on the leaderboard are currently only for keeping score. You kept your relative position on the leaderboard so this didn’t truly harm you in any way. The idea was to remove some flezz from the economy, but as it turned out, it was only temporarily successful.

Also items – at max frugality, depending on the item, the hit was less than 25%. To choose an impractical example, smileprin XR cost 501 to buy, and 470 to sell, with frugality over 50. That’s alot of clicking to sell the things though, if you didn’t foresee the interface consequences… Log in to see images!

Vuron Posted:

I think the core problem with rebalancing the economy without somehow taxing the excess out of existence is that existing players who built up a huge lead around the start of episode 2 will continue to maintain that lead while new players will struggle to ever catch up.

There is already a leaderboard that is impossible for new players to top (forums pwned) I’m not sure we need another leaderboard that is the same way.

Put in some mbumive flezz sink or a   to BP conversion and you can hopefully remove the problems with the economy.

However ultimately the core problem is that once you hit 28+ you really don’t need consumables anymore and repairs are a nonfactor so there is no way for attrition to suck flezz out of the game. Until there are actually forums that require level capped players some consumables to pwn there is going to be continued acgreat timesulation of resources.

fukkin signed.

I think that the central point that is being missed in this discussion is that Evil Trout has got to stop making these major changes (flezz, geronimo, cred) with no warning. That is the obnoxious part – that and that the changes are made after a bunch of players (me included) have already taken advantage but all the players that come after us get screwed.

I don’t think any of us disagree with the notion that flezz has to be drained out of the economy, but it should be announced. If not the actual details of the change at least something like, “Next Wednesday at midnight there will be substantial changes to the deliveries system.” Something for god’s sake!

We need the next community forum to be a high-level one. I don’t mean a level 35 forum, I mean a 50+.

Make people burn healing items near-constantly in order to survive, but have the .moar rewards be worth the effort. When the .moar trading system is deployed, people will be spending lots of flezz (50% tax rate?) on getting the pieces they don’t have.

When Ep3 comes around, those .moar files will become easy to get and there will be better ones available.

A mbumive flezz sink for a temporary advantage.