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News THIS WEEK: Domination Changes

BINGEBOT 2015

Avatar: 38 2010-12-05 22:39:25 -0500

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UPDATE: Starting this weeks round of Domination (Wednesday, Feb 4) we’re changing the following:

– Adding a countdown on the Raid page that will indicate when you are eligible to Raid again

– Changing the daily raid limit from 24 hours to 60 hours such that you will only be able to join a raid once every 60 hours (If you join a raid by mistake TS for now, so be careful)

– Remove the time limit for joining a raid, you can join at any time

– If you are booted from a raid (by an Officer) your spot will remain taken (Only 13 people EVER should be able to join a particular Raid)

– Change the Klan Domination page to display how many forums (and which forums) your raid currently pwns

– bumhole Cards now remove 10 scoops

– Klan Domination page is no longer Klan only. You can get to it from the Domination page in the footer navigation under “Vanilla Helper”

– Alts are still not allowed in a Raid. This is not a change, but apparently needs to be explicitly stated. Please refer to the enhancements thread for upcoming changes which are up for discussion.

Starting last weeks round of Domination (Wednesday, Jan 28) the following changes were made:

– Raid size will be limited to 13

– Each character can only join 1 raid per day every 60 hours

Characters can only join a raid in the first 15 minutes of its creation

– Raid admins can end the raid at any time

– Disabled alts cannot “push” forums or join raids

If you are not in the raid, you don’t contribute to the count

– If you have more then 5 characters, you must choose which 5 will participate in Domination (or the first 5 characters to earn scoops are automatically chosen)

As per usual please remember build first, balance next.

For further changes, please refer to the enhancements thread.

Thanks.

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BINGEBOT 2015 edited this message on 02/05/2009 1:24AM

Colonel Bear

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Amasius

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Question answered. Log in to see images! Amasius edited this message on 01/27/2009 3:40PM

scully

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This sounds very good. Do you know if “disabled” alts will still be able to impact non-raid pwning? Currently only enabled characters can earn scoops, but disabled can push down forums or interrupt other players.

spacekadt

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scullyangel Posted:

This sounds very good. Do you know if “disabled” alts will still be able to impact non-raid pwning? Currently only enabled characters can earn scoops, but disabled can push down forums or interrupt other players.

Or join raids and not gain scoops, but still count toward the 12 for the raid?

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
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In other words, this is also called the ’Screw You, 7VD’ Amendment.

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BINGEBOT 2015

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scullyangel Posted:

This sounds very good. Do you know if “disabled” alts will still be able to impact non-raid pwning? Currently only enabled characters can earn scoops, but disabled can push down forums or interrupt other players.

Disabled alts will no longer be able to push forums. Updated OP.

BINGEBOT 2015

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spacekadt Posted:

Or join raids and not gain scoops, but still count toward the 12 for the raid?

Any enabled alt can join a raid not contribute, but count towards the 10 character limit. The raid admin should boot them.

Can disabled alts currently join raids???

Amasius

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BINGEBOT 2015 Posted:

Can disabled alts currently join raids???

Yes they can but they still don’t get scoops.

BINGEBOT 2015

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Acid Flux Posted:

In other words, this is also called the ’Screw You, 7VD’ Amendment.

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The aim of these changes is to balance Domination for all players. Noobs, klannies, solo players.. These changes have been posted and discussed for a long time to avoid shock. There are discussion threads which you should contribute to if you have further comments.

Any balance issues will be addressed, so post comments. My hope is to maintain a balance towards the benefit of klan raids, but not to make the advantage as overpowered as it is today.

BINGEBOT 2015 edited this message on 01/27/2009 3:56PM

BINGEBOT 2015

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Amasius Posted:

Yes they can but they still don’t get scoops.

That seems like a weird bug. Well for now I’d say just boot them.. Since they would take up a spot in your raid. And as of Wednesday they will not be able to push forums.

Acid Flux

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BINGEBOT 2015 Posted:

The aim of these changes is to balance Domination for all players. Noobs, klannies, solo players.. These changes have been posted and discussed for a long time to avoid shock. There are discussion threads which you should contribute to if you have further comments.

Any balance issues will be addressed, so post comments. My hope is to maintain a balance towards the benefit of klan raids, but not to make the advantage as overpowered as it is today.

Dude… it was just a joke. Hence the winky-smiley face: Log in to see images!

I fully agree that these balance issues needed to be addressed. Swarm Klan Raids were totally unbalanced. Now we can get back to the way Klan Raids should have always been.

Now, as far as actual, relevant comments:

Why the decision to set Max Raid size at 10? IMHO, 13 would be a more fair number (1 Raid Leader, 12 Raiders).

Why the five minute entry limit? That window of entry seems a bit narrow. Wouldn’t 15 minutes be more reasonable, just in case someone needed to be replaced at the last minute?

Those are my only two suggestions.

BINGEBOT 2015

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Acid Flux Posted:

Dude… it was just a joke.

I wish I was able to comprehend the concept of humour that you humans enjoy.

Acid Flux Posted:

Why the decision to set Max Raid size at 10? IMHO, 13 would be a more fair number (1 Raid Leader, 12 Raiders).

Build first, balance second. Log in to see images!

Acid Flux Posted:

Why the five minute entry limit? That window of entry seems a bit narrow. Wouldn’t 15 minutes be more reasonable, just in case someone needed to be replaced at the last minute?

Again, build first, balance second.

I’m not against any of your suggestions. Let’s do it this way for a week and let me know if you still feel the same. It should be a minor adjustment so I’m not stressed about changing those details.

B2015

BINGEBOT 2015 edited this message on 01/27/2009 4:55PM

Nicco

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Really looking forward to these changes. Log in to see images!

Langston Jon-
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just going on record to say having only 10 people benefit from scoops is sorta a major ‘**** you’ to large klans, what are we to do? Split up from out friends? Or make more and more alt to have second and third klans?? It seems unnecessary with only one account being able to collect scoops.. so un-needed..

BINGEBOT 2015

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Raepdog Posted:

just going on record to say having only 10 people benefit from scoops is sorta a major ‘**** you’ to large klans, what are we to do? Split up from out friends? Or make more and more alt to have second and third klans?? It seems unnecessary with only one account being able to collect scoops.. so un-needed..

Why don’t you just do consecutive raids with your alts and friends?

Acid Flux

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Acid Flux Posted:

The raids I remember from KoLOL worked best with 13 people.

Well 13 sounds good to me. Maybe next week I’ll get that changed. Let’s see how things go this week.

MC Banhammer

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Raepdog Posted:

just going on record to say having only 10 people benefit from scoops is sorta a major ‘**** you’ to large klans, what are we to do? Split up from out friends?

Enjoy chatting and interacting with your friends, and raid with only a few of them at a time. Just like if you go to a party, and spend most of your time with 3 or 4 people, but still interact with the other dozen or two throughout the night.

Adapt

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Nicco Posted:

Really looking forward to these changes. Log in to see images!

Acid Flux

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BINGEBOT 2015 Posted:

Why don’t you just do consecutive raids with your alts and friends?

The fact that a Klan Admin can end a raid at any time makes this option definitely doable. Most raids didn’t need to last two hours (even with 13+ people), so this could definitely help streamline things.

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