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SPLASHWOMANSPLASHWOMANCold meat is cold. (view post) |
11/27/2008 | |
ITT: I found a MisspellingBuddha Statue Posted: Needs more “p”... ee. (view post) |
11/25/2008 | |
Nominate Forumwarz for a Crunchie! (free E-Peen!)Watch the ‘Peen be a cirgreat timescision (coutesy of Herschel) that actually shortens you. Eh, still, three noms so far. When is a winner (weiner?) announced? (view post) |
11/24/2008 | |
Nominate Forumwarz for a Crunchie! (free E-Peen!)Done (though clicking the link from the Blog’s RSS gave me something different than what I clicked in this here thread).
EDIT: Holy carp, we can vote every day? Here’s to hoping memory prevails (since this is more likely (and important!) than those [console]Fanboy contests).
EDIT2: *nvrmnd, it’s alt-postin’ tyme (view post) |
11/21/2008 | |
It's my birthday today.Demand birthday suit pics? (view post) |
11/19/2008 | |
Good Idea/Bad Idea? Rare ThreadsI’d suck its male reproductive organ! (view post) |
11/19/2008 | |
Lookin 4 boyfriendDamn, those balls hang low. (view post) |
11/16/2008 | |
Happy Anniversary ForumWarzBaconSupreme Posted: |
11/14/2008 | |
ITT: I found a MisspellingJalapeno Bootyhole Posted:
Dammit, I just editted that post! OK, I’ll lay off the “optional”/”personal” punctuation quirks. *really does hope nt to being pain in bootyhole* (view post) |
11/14/2008 | |
Stop Anthropomorphizing Me!Q: Anyone know if there’s an evil-boosting series of responses that still garners the ‘Peen? My Hacker’s my token extremely-evil d00d (Permanoob’s the extremely good), but all the active alts are ‘Peen-hungry. A neutral option is fine, too (wanna say I’ve been getting neutral, but *shrugs*). [Same for a “good” sequence for the Meanie one; still unclear about that one’s status, reading various posts aboot it.]
Well, went through the Big Fat Meanie-Head-Face-Pants on the ‘noob… Even though I drew the conversation out up until he offered the book, it still docked me from 27% Good to 13% Good… POOP!/DAMMIT! Ah, well, I can prolly make it up a bit from here/there… (view post) |
11/14/2008 | |
Ok, I think we should just get this out of the way right nowLord Shplane Posted:
Episode Zero: Texts of the NPCs The precursor legacy of the Internet as told through Shallow Esophagus, Ravit “Blacksnake” Nordstrom III, and the economics leaders of the Internet.
... or somethin’. Makes me think “EarthBound Zero” and “Metroid: Zero Mission”. (view post) |
11/14/2008 | |
Happy Anniversary ForumWarzBigandtasty Posted:
Don’t care, I want it, not only ‘cause I’m a ‘Peen whore (though some are just way out of my league, such as the now-retired Cred one), but ‘cause I had/have been active all around that day (even checked teh RSS feed aboot anniversarization). It’s plain irritating to have missed it by so. damn. little. (like that guy who upgraded to Permanoob before pwning Episode 1’s last forum). (view post) |
11/14/2008 | |
Happy Anniversary ForumWarzAgent_Orange Posted:
http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view_post/313538 But I got in (before the rollover, but if that’s the case, I got two in before Nov. 1’s as well)! Did editted status screw me ovah? (view post) |
11/14/2008 | |
ITT: I found a MisspellingI’m gonna nitpick again with the second courtroom instance, in this case an incosistency of an end-of-the-list comma.I really don’t need to hear any more of this. DrrtyCop74, this court finds you absolutely, positively, totally and completely… Ms. Cop74…in addition to the charges of bribery, extortion, and quite probably having an awful singing voice, I’m going to hold you in contempt of court! ... and in the preceeding sTalk conversation... They know how to talk to a lady…even if she is packing a sawed-off shotgun! ... ”she is” doesn’t sound very ‘natural’ for this, and… I’m an officer of the law and I don’t take any ****. ... that’s a compound sentence (I think), and so needs a comma. I’ve these’ve already been posted, then, well, I’unno… “**** you” seems kinda rude… “deal with it”? OOH! OOH! A real one this tyme (yet prolly already reported): 53CurEO wants you enter the popular forum HAY DID U SEE THIZ??? and hack that bum up. Missing a “to”. OOH! OOH! And to accompany it: A forum for The Sovereign Knights of Mongolia, the guild belonging to much-maligned “fifth clbum” of Forumwarz. Missing a “the”. Q: If more than one of my(/our) many innane points are valid errors, can I(/we) request ‘Peen reappropriation to alts (since a good number were seen either through alt-exclusivity or alt re-viewing)? (view post) |
11/13/2008 | |
Trolls! THE INTERNETZ WANTS US SHUTDOWN!1338h4x Posted:
It was a serious article that, by nature of being a serious article, is trolling trolls, who, on the whole, will immediately react toward anything that seem to be taking itself too srsly. (view post) |
11/12/2008 | |
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EDIT: Should’ve totally used an alt-chain. (view post) |
11/12/2008 | |
Trolls! THE INTERNETZ WANTS US SHUTDOWN!#1. Pbum Some Kind of Law or Something Ending Anonymous Internet Use
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And here we go. If all else fails—and I suspect it will—this will happen, eventually. And it will simply be the death of what most of us know as the World Wide Web. But of course this is silly, alarmist thinking, right? How can you ever regulate the wild-wild-west Internet?
Well, they’ve already started doing it in Korea. Everybody gets a 13-digit PIN and you’ve got to enter it any time you want to leave a comment somewhere. They enforce it site by site, via a government agency (the Korean version of the FCC). They’ve started from the top down, forcing every site with more than 200,000 visitors to require the PIN, and they’re going to expand it to every site with 100,000 or more.
There’s a similar movement in Brazil and years ago they tried to do it in France. And don’t forget that American lawmakers are pushing for the same.
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And no, there is nothing about the Internet that would keep them from making such tracking universal. All they need is a redesign of the protocols, which is why the US military is doing exactly that. Once they’ve got their secure, transparent network in place, it’s just a matter of forcing its adoption.
If Web 2.0 was about social networking, Web 3.0 will be about the death of anonymity. You say nobody wants that, but there are three very important and powerful somebodies who do:
1. Copyright holders who want to be able to track pirates;
2. Law enforcement agencies who want to track child predators (don’t forget the Oprah moms demanding the same) and to hunt down hackers;
3. Online advertisers who want to make billions off that 92% of housewives and adults who don’t use social networking for fear of being called a ****whale in public.
Yes, it turns out there’s a reason the Wild West didn’t stay wild. The gunslingers loved it, but the other 99% of the world wanted laws and security and highways. And they were the ones with the money.
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To get legislative momentum for this, all it’ll take is some highly publicized deaths. You know, like that girl that committed suicide a year ago after a MySpace prank. Or Choi Jin-sil, the 40 year old entertainer from Korea who killed herself after relentless online harbumment. Or Kathy Sierra, a popular blogger who canceled public appearances after getting death threats in her comments (and we’re talking about the kind that come with people posting her home address). And don’t forget this horrifying article in the New York Times chronicling the kids who very smoothly transitioned from online trolling to doing real-world harm without blinking an eye.
Next we’ll get experts explaining that it’s not just that anonymity makes offenders harder to catch, but in fact actually causes the bad behavior. Like this article does (“They are not the first to be grotesquely transformed by a new technology that offers easy availability and anonymity to its users”Log in to see images!.
Or this research paper that says due to that interpersonal disconnect, some people are unable to recognize anything that happens on a computer screen as having real-life consequences.
Now we’ve elevated anonymity itself to a public safety threat. We’d better do something about it! With laws!
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And, behind every politician trying to kill anonymity “to protect our children,” there will be an ocean of Time-Warner stockholders applauding the effort, dreaming of a future where every P2P downloader gets a knock on the door from the cops minutes later.
Sure, there’ll still be untamed corners of the web in the future, just as there are still some cowboys around. But in that future, 10 or 20 years from now, us holdouts will all just be sad, deluded men in ridiculous hats. (view post) |
11/12/2008 | |
Trolls! THE INTERNETZ WANTS US SHUTDOWN!#2. Up the Stakes for Membership
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We’ve established that anonymous communication makes people bumholes. But it also works the opposite way: Real life, in-person communication suppresses many of us who wish we could be bumholes around the clock.
In the real world, getting a bad reputation can screw us over in countless ways, from losing future favors to getting punched in the nuts. A whole lot of people are civil for purely selfish motives. The Internet strips all that away.
Online you can drop by a blog and create an ID in seconds. You have absolutely nothing invested in it or its reputation. With that cardboard persona, you’re free to rip **** up and if people get ****ed, who cares?
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Hell, you can even log out, create another ID, then join the others in their condemnation of the first ID. The rewards and consequences are all gone; your inner bumhole is free to emerge.
This is why people tend to be less obnoxious in something like Second Life. Users there have an investment in their avatars, in time and energy and—usually—money. So how do you extend that to the rest of the web?
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When SomethingAwful.com started charging to join their forums a few years ago, it had the dual effect of raising cash for the site and slashing the number of very special posters. It was just a one-time fee of $10—the cost of a few ringtones—but still far more than what some 13 year-old troll will pay to pop in and call Zach Parsons a fart zeppelin.
Persistent ID’s:
There’s no realistic way to do this at the moment, but fast-forward ten years and don’t be surprised if every major site makes you stick with the same user ID (maybe the one your ISP bumigned you). And don’t be surprised if that ID happens to look a whole lot like your real name.
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I know, I know. You’re saying, “But nobody wants that! That can only happen if they pbumed some kind of law or something ending anonymous Internet use!”
Well, that’s why #1 is… (view post) |
11/12/2008 | |
Trolls! THE INTERNETZ WANTS US SHUTDOWN!#3. Unify the Culture
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Experts agree that the Internet has the magical power to turn normal people into ****wads simply by granting them anonymity and an audience. But there’s another cause that gets overlooked. Specifically, that a comment screen abhors a vacuum and will quickly fill it with bumholes.
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It works like this: Everybody is an bumhole in some cirgreat timesstances, and a nice guy in others. You go to Mardi Gras and scream for a lady to show you her mammary glands, but you don’t do the same when sitting at the dinner table with Grandma on Sunday. As this article put it: “The largest determinant of behavior is the perceived social environment.” But often on the Internet, there is no social environment.
To again use our own site as an example, the Cracked forums are consistently less angry and/or insulting than the article comments. Why? Because when you show up on the forums, you find yourself in an existing community, looking at a long list of threads and posts that establish the culture. Just a few minutes of reading gives you a sense of what is and is not acceptable.
But in the comments under an article (or YouTube video, or blog post), it’s a clean slate. If just one dude comes in and submits “LOL WHAT A FAT ****” as the first post, he’s set the tone for everybody and it will only go downhill from there. That’s why modular post situations, where each conversation is completely isolated from the rest, make for some of the ****tiest posting. A man sees an empty room and says, “Well, nobody here, guess I can flip out my dong.”
So how do you fix that?
Universal Moderation Policy:
Something like this has been proposed by some prominent bloggers calling for a blogger Code of Conduct.
Some kind of guidelines for what is and is not acceptable in the comments would be drawn up, and everybody who agrees can adopt it. Those sites would be marked with some kind of symbol or badge, just as copyright and Creative Commons symbols indicate at a glance how intellectual property can be used.
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In a world where those badges are common and commonly recognized, even looking at an empty comment box would let the poster know what’s acceptable there.
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Obviously a Lemonparty spammer won’t see a badge and think, “Oh, you mean you don’t want me to act like a douchebag? I do apologize, kind sir!”
But huge chunks of the population will modify their irritating behavior if you make it clear it’s unacceptable (theater chains that reminded patrons to turn off their cell phones—and kicked out people who didn’t—saw immediate results). For some people, they just need a sign in that empty room saying, “NON-male reproductive organ EXPOSURE ZONE” to keep their pants zipped. Give it to them.
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And if that doesn’t work… (view post) |
11/12/2008 | |
Trolls! THE INTERNETZ WANTS US SHUTDOWN!#4. Start a Posse of Moderators, and Arm Them
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Right now if you have a blog or forum or anything else with open comments, and you don’t have a human moderator to watch it, you’re going to wind up with a wasteland. As soon as more than one troll shows up, they will feed off each other until everyone else is gone. You have to control them. And don’t start talking about free speech; the troll’s goal is to shut down speech, to either fill the channel with noise until no one can talk to each other, or to get everyone talking about him instead of the subject at hand. He’s a guy in a coffee shop screaming nonsense over a bullhorn.
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And it’s here where the marriage of creative software and human moderators can make all the difference. With things like…
Disenvoweling:
This is a bit of code that will suck all of the vowels out of a targeted post, so that this:
“What an unfunny piece of ****. Somebody should be fired for letting this guy write for the site.”
Becomes:
“Wht n nfnny pc f sht. Smbdy shld b frd fr lttng ths gy wrt fr th st.”
The theory is that it makes people slow down and try to parse what was being said and thus robs the post of its impact. Also it makes the troll look very special.
Karma:
Geek megaportal SlashDot was among the first to use this, a way of allowing the community to moderate itself. Registered users can vote every post up or down, and each user winds up with a karma “score” that is just the sum total of all the “up” votes minus the “down” ones they’ve ever gotten.
We use this in the Cracked forums (where each member’s karma score is visible to other members at all times). You can only vote once per day, so even a coordinated karma voting campaign couldn’t change a score faster than the rest of the community could correct it.
Yes, it works. Everyone claims they don’t care what their karma is, yet any time a person sees an unexplained drop, I get an email complaining about it. You just can’t ignore a number right next to your name that announces what the community thinks of you.
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But we’re still thinking small, on a site-by-site basis. After all, bumheads will simply migrate to places where security isn’t as tight. If this is an Internet-wide problem, we need to think big. But how? (view post) |
11/12/2008 |