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OverclockedJ-
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Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Dunatis Posted:

And how pray tell would all of this work out in your mind? If profit hungry diamond cartels are socialist rather than capitalist, it would appear to me that you would connect any sort of power structure to a form of oppressive government yet capitalism would create a power structure

An economic one, perhaps. But the difference between economic power and political power is the difference between trade and a gun. And those with more ambition and less morals are the ones we normally find in government (this is actually Hoppe’s Law).

As for an organizational structure: we don’t need a government to distribute our food, do we? No. We seem to get fed quite well without a government doling out food to everyone. Consider that.

Dunatis Posted:

It would seem to me that as these financial powers battled amongst themselves in this power vacuum (since we have no government in this supposition to say “Hey Wal-mart, don’t send a tank to destroy the neighboring Superstore in order to steal their customers”Log in to see images!Only if you can’t think past the Hollywood nonsense. Once you do, you realize that wars are expensive and trade works better.

Dunatis Posted:

Admittedly slavery is not the right word to use for the lower clbum in the industrial revolution as they were not owned and treated as property (unless they were a minority). Instead they were treated as a commodity, a tool to be used while it worked then thrown out and replaced when it broke.

No, not unless that was enforced by a government. And unions had almost nothing to do with better working conditions. The myth of unions as the savior of the worker is straight out of fiction.

But people can unionize if they want; it’s not a socialist idea.

Dunatis Posted:

You say you will take liberty over slavery any day yet I live in Canada and am perfectly free to do as I choose.

O RLY? You can spew whatever hate speech you want and the PC police won’t charge you? Oh wait—they will! You can pay for a private doctor to perform a procedure covered by your government health insurance and it’s fine? Oh wait—it’s illegal! Your rights are infringed, just as mine are.

Dunatis Posted:

You’re quick to call me wrong and while I admit right here and now that I am not infallible, I have yet to hear any real alternative beyond “government no, capitalism yes”.

Letting people make their own choices. If you’re looking for specifics, you need to tell me precisely what you will have for breakfast on May 10, 2014. Once you realize that you don’t know because future conditions based on free will and desires are like that, you’ll understand that I can’t give you specifics. Further, specifics would show that we can plan such things—and we can’t.

I also suggest that you look into DeBeers (THE diamond cartel) or OPEC (the C should stand for Cartel). Want to have a diamond mine in certain places? You have to be registered with DeBeers and get a license from the government. That’s just a fact. And it’s corporatist, which is a peculiar form of socialism.

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