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she created an entire philosophy which has been adopted by the American Right which endorses what is basically death to anyone who isn’t rich+smart. she will be responsible for more deaths than any dictator ever due to the idea of Objectivism and should be despised
rename forum to Bertrand Russels or Noam Chomskys or someone better |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 10:18PM | View Veer's Profile | # | ||||||
She didn’t come up with anything. That point of view has been around forever. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 10:41PM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Yeah. bumholes will be, well, bumholes. Erecting a political philosophy around it to church it up doesn’t change it appreciably. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 10:47PM | View Sooper_Duper_Fay...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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I don’t see where this is a bad thing. Wed be a lot better off if only the rich and smart were left, regardless of race color or religion. Hitler killed off of something you cant control, which is what you are born into. In my opinion, The New money rich usually get where they are thanks to their abilities for the most part (“old money” those who inherited money, THEY can go collectively to hell thank you) And are deserving of it. The poor remain so because, to put in in a simple perspective, they suck…and from a Darwinian clbum perspective, they are better off dead. But there are bleeding hearts out there that insist that CLODS such as them are allowed to have nice things for nothing…
Actually I’m just going to stop there before I go too far off the deep end, but Ill talk to you via TM or something if youd like.
Don’t worry about this thread though, Ill happily keep this thread open though, as we are all welcome to CIVIL opinion.
Ask me on my opinion on Health care! |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 10:50PM | View dobnits's Profile | # | ||||||
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Listen, I’m all for doctors getting paid boatloads of money. After all, medical school, from all accounts, suck it. And, it lasts forever, so there needs to be a big payout at the end. Same with anyone else who got their Bachelor’s or higher. They put the work in, let them see a pay raise.
Where things get out of hand are those same ‘old money’ folks. If they could be expected to spend a reasonable amount of their net income every year, that’d be fine, but they don’t, really. Which means they get more and more, not by the sweat of their brow, which is fine, as I said before, but because their great-great-great-grandpa’s last name was Hilton. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 10:55PM | View Sooper_Duper_Fay...'s Profile | # | ||||||
dobnits Posted:
I really hope this isn’t your honest point of view. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 11:08PM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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was Posted:
Id kinda have to ban myself if it wasn’t. I choose not to talk about it unless the topic comes up for this exact reason. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 11:38PM | View dobnits's Profile | # | ||||||
dobnits Posted:
Well, I don’t want to get into a big discussion about this, but I want to leave you with one idea. You are born into your clbum and intelligent people are distributed throughout. When most people say “smart” they mean educated and your level of education is partially dependent on the amount of money you can generate. I think I share your reluctance to debate this on flamebait publicly. |
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Posted On: 11/15/2009 11:48PM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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dobnits, I am curious. It was not so long ago, in the thread entitled ”Things that **** you off” that you posted this: dobnits Posted:
It seems to me that your opinion has seen a radical shift. Can you tell us what life changing event precipitated this shift? |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 12:29AM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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When was that,like a year a go. Yeah stuff has happened since then to change my viewpoint. Both that and this remain true at the time they were said.
But that is another story for another day. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 12:34AM | View dobnits's Profile | # | ||||||
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Less than 8 months actually. I imagine that congratulations are in order on your good fortune.
I bumume that this wasn’t actually an 8 month process, but that something occurred to change your opinion over a short period of time, and it is simply coming to light now? |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 12:52AM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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dobs, if you would elaborate your position into something like Given everyone has the same “pole position” at birth, those who struggle more to win, who are more ambitious and purposeful, are much more preferable in terms of evolution than those, who lazily live on welfare and don’t care about self-improvement. then I would definitely agree with you.
But you didn’t. And unfortunately everyone has different life opportunities, and it’s quite unnatural evolution-wise that rich dork with IQ 40 should survive and graduate college instead of a poor genius kid dying somewhere in Bangladesh. Inconnu edited this message on 11/16/2009 1:06AM |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:06AM | View Inconnu's Profile | # | ||||||
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I remember being 17 and having no idea how the world works. Indiana Jonas edited this message on 11/16/2009 1:09AM |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:08AM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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lol, so having no money to go to school and never being succesful despite all the intelligence one could have is enough reason to get killed and let society advance, way to go. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:16AM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||
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the only thing I’m going to say is that the far right has a lot of serious problems with rand’s attitude toward personal freedoms ie drugs, sex, abortions, things like that. The right likes her taxes, the left likes her social issues.
She’s still a deluded psychopath though. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:18AM | View Fortunato's Profile | # | ||||||
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dobnits Posted:
also lol i know a lot of people that have gone through uni and will probably make lots of money completely by cheating on tests and that kind of stuff, really well deserved. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:21AM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||
Inconnu Posted:
I wouldn’t agree with that, because everyone doesn’t have the same “pole position” at birth. And that is a ridiculous characterization of people on welfare.
Let’s not make this about dobnits. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 1:40AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
Can we stop comparing people to Hitler? I am sure history is full of people that can be substituted. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 2:25AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Ok, rather than something inflammatory or troll-baity, how about a scenario?
A young child grows up in a very poor family. The child is bright, interested and excels in learning environments. The child does not (obviously) have control over their home environment – perhaps it is simply a family without means, perhaps the parents aren’t bright, perhaps there is addiction or illness -whatever the reason, it has resulted in a struggle for basic necessities.
The family grows. Now there are other children, money becomes tighter.
The child, now teen aged, finishes high school, is awarded merit based scholarships to far off universities, but the child has held a job and has been helping to provide basic necessities for the family for some time.
If the child leaves, it will certainly be an act of abandonment and will leave the family in a precarious situation. Something the parents perhaps deserve, but the other children don’t as they are innocent in the situation.
What course of action is recommended? And depending on the choice, what repercussions are “deserved” so to speak. |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 2:34AM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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dobnits Posted:
Have you come into some money? Are you in anyway related to anyone in the Bilderberg Group? |
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Posted On: 11/16/2009 5:44AM | View Muhammad I m har...'s Profile | # | ||||||