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Everybodyknows Posted:

and considering more americans are driving SUVs these days that only get about .5 miles per gallon…..

Yeah, those SUV owners should be the last persons ever to complain! I mean who told them to get those SUVs in the first place. And if they don’t like spending so much money on gas, they could give themselves (and the environment) a favour and sell the SUV. I’m quite sure that with the money they get from selling it, they could be able to buy some used and less consuming vehicle. (Sorry if I offended any SUV owners.. but not really).

And btw. the minimum wage stuff doesn’t always apply either. Still a year ago (with current gas prices) I was making “a bit less than a gallon per hour”, which was actually more than many some of my co-workers made. Currently I’m making 1.25 gallons per hour. Not much, but the job gives me other liberties… And for example in tele-harbuming, and maybe in some other professions as well, there is no minimum wage laws in this Euro-country.

Apart from not wanting to hear any whining from SUV owners, I’m not really complaining. I don’t own a car and here you actually have quite an OK public transportation system (at least if you don’t happen to live in the country-side). I also believe that since I try to go everywhere by foot, or at times by bike, I’m in much better shape than I would be, if I had ever bought a car. Sure, I understand that for some the distances to work or to wherever may be such that a car is necessary and well… that just sucks. And in that case, if your car is not an SUV (or another comparable gas hog), feel free to complain. I don’t mind…

evilhamster, I think it’s worth saying that when you post in this forum, I have a hard time telling whether or not you are being sarcastic. That says something about the content of your posts.

Just_Cy Posted:

Yeah, those SUV owners should be the last persons ever to complain! I mean who told them to get those SUVs in the first place. And if they don’t like spending so much money on gas, they could give themselves (and the environment) a favour and sell the SUV. I’m quite sure that with the money they get from selling it, they could be able to buy some used and less consuming vehicle. (Sorry if I offended any SUV owners.. but not really).

And btw. the minimum wage stuff doesn’t always apply either. Still a year ago (with current gas prices) I was making “a bit less than a gallon per hour”, which was actually more than many some of my co-workers made. Currently I’m making 1.25 gallons per hour. Not much, but the job gives me other liberties… And for example in tele-harbuming, and maybe in some other professions as well, there is no minimum wage laws in this Euro-country.

Apart from not wanting to hear any whining from SUV owners, I’m not really complaining. I don’t own a car and here you actually have quite an OK public transportation system (at least if you don’t happen to live in the country-side). I also believe that since I try to go everywhere by foot, or at times by bike, I’m in much better shape than I would be, if I had ever bought a car. Sure, I understand that for some the distances to work or to wherever may be such that a car is necessary and well… that just sucks. And in that case, if your car is not an SUV (or another comparable gas hog), feel free to complain. I don’t mind…

yeah, fortunately i drive a sedan that gets about 30 miles a gallon. unfortunately i’m not wealthy enough that gas prices are **** money to me. and yeah, my basic point is that in Europe there are more options than driving that are actually feasible. the public transport system sucks here outside of the major cities, and even then some places it’s pretty bad. i’d kill to be able to just take a pbumenger train from new york to california, but it’s just not gonna happen since long distance pbumenger trains are mostly dead here.

i hate SUVs based solely on the fact that most of the people who drive them will never use them for what they were built for, off-roading. they’ve just come to replace vans/minivans for some godawful reason, when vans/minivans get the job done and consume less gas.

i only mentioned the minimum wage because i honestly had no idea what the minimum wages are like over there.

Bubo Posted:

Altazimuth hits closer to home than you do. Yes, there are alternatives out there, and for 99% of the points they are much better than oil. However, they aren’t cheaper than oil (yet). Until oil prices rise to the point where they overshoot the alternatives for a significant period of time, we won’t see a mbum-shift in fuel choice.

Now, I’d prefer the alternatives myself, but keep in mind with electric cars (including hybrids) that the batteries still use Nickel. Lots and lots and lots of nickel, which is a poisonous pollutant. I’ve read about a plant up north (I believe it was in Canada, but don’t quote me) where the land around the plant is so dead Hollywood uses it for “Other Planet” scenes.

Well at least someone got it right.

There’s really more than one question everyone here is discussing. The original question asked is, “Where the price of gasoline come down?”

Now, unless he were to have worded it differently in a significant way, the original question still remains to be successfully answered in this thread.

Crude Oil = 42 gallons/barrel

46% of Crude Oil goes into Refined Gasoline, or 1 Barrel yields 19.6 gallons of finished motor gasoline

That however, only answers one part of the question: the price of oil is determined by profitability (which should be a no-brainer anyways, any company with even the slightest bit of common sense is always going to want to profit)-AKA supply; the other side is demand.

Fact of the matter is, there is becoming a high dependency on oil in every day life. It doesn’t just affect what you pay at the pump. The entire world now depends on oil. The food you buy every week, they have to be transported somehow. Right? I mean, c’mon: you don’t get your food magically! Even the farmers are affected by oil, seeing that’s how they fuel their machinery. Same is true about clothing, video games, toys, you name it. Our entire military depends on oil, too.

But now another variable has entered the demand of oil: China. Now that China has become more submerged in the world, a bigger fish in such a small world, there is bound to be an influx of oil prices since more people in China are going to be using oil, just as much as America.

So to lower the price of oil, you must first make it more profitable per barrel produced. It’s not going to happen, anymore. Realistically, the break-even prices across the world are going to in a matter of years increase significantly. Why might that be? Because in some years (contrary to what the oil companies, governments, and even environmentalists tell you) down the road, oil is going to have run out. Even if we start drilling in Alaska and off Florida, prices are not going to drop in the long-term.

Also, most oil fields are owned by dictators (Hugo Chavez) or by states that hate the Western world but don’t mind profiting off our “sins” (Saudi Arabia).

Now then, that question is finally answered: IT SIMPLY IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! No matter how you look at it, prices are not going to drop-not this time. One way or another, this is the end of one of the most powerful eras in history and as what has happened will occur again: an evolutionary cycle. Good or bad, it’ll happen.

Sancdar Posted:

You’re buddies with Bush?

My neighbors car cost me 40 bucks to gas up. I hate America.

Korn-Nazi Posted:

The krazy PETA people won’t let us drill in Alaska cause it interrupts the migration of the native caribu.

**** caribou.