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CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

CrinkzPipe Posted:

I have one thing to say,

Copy and pasting select sentences DIRECTLY from the site is plagiarism in my book.

Ok guys, I’ma make a new online game called “Forum Warz”(See? There is a space separating the two words it MUST be different eh?)

Here’s the description:

“Forum warz is a parody role-playing game that takes place on the Internet. In fact, Forum warz is the Internet…in game form. bumume the role of one of five Internet personas: Camwhore, Troll, Hacker, Permanoob or Emo Kid, each with their own special attacks, abilities and personalities. Play in story mode and pwn your way through a dense world of mystery, intrigue and Internet idiocy. Or test your skillz against others in various player-versus-player challenges.”

I mean, it isn’t a EXACT copy of the game Forumwarz so it’s a parody right?

Evil Trout

MODERATOR
Avatar: 35 2023-04-24 23:24:10 +0000

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 21 Hacker

I'm just out to get milk, I'll be back in 2053!

I agree that this is pretty blatant plagiarism.

One thing to consider though, is that the majority of the content of a forum is what people submit during the building phase, not the description. So we will end up with something that is 99% not plagiarized.

We’ll discuss at our meeting. We might be able to get away with just changing the description slightly.

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

If it’d help, I’d be happy to write a less lazy description… keep the idea but excise the copied part.

e.g. “The IEDAB is a scientific foundation, created to conduct cutting edge research into the field of the destruction of the Earth; determining and categorising the methods by which the Earth may be destroyed. It is also tasked with closely observing the current state of the Earth and tracking the frequency with which it is destroyed.”

Evil Trout

MODERATOR
Avatar: 35 2023-04-24 23:24:10 +0000

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 21 Hacker

I'm just out to get milk, I'll be back in 2053!

Also, if we change it there will be some sort of penalty. I don’t think we’d want people doing this every week.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

Evil Trout Posted:

Also, if we change it there will be some sort of penalty. I don’t think we’d want people doing this every week.

no peen imo

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

man-man Posted:

If it’d help, I’d be happy to write a less lazy description… keep the idea but excise the copied part.

e.g. “The IEDAB is a scientific foundation, created to conduct cutting edge research into the field of the destruction of the Earth; determining and categorising the methods by which the Earth may be destroyed. It is also tasked with closely observing the current state of the Earth and tracking the frequency with which it is destroyed.”

That’s inherently different than the current description. The current one includes tracking how many times the Earth has already BEEN destroyed, and there are many submissions which reference that. Changing to “the frequency with which it is destroyed”, which is currently zero, invalidates a lot of those entries.

Also, this:

CrinkzPipe Posted:

no peen imo

MC Banhammer edited this message on 10/19/2009 12:38PM

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

MC Banhammer Posted:

That’s inherently different than the current description.

Ok, so swap back in some of the original wording. I was aiming to not use any of the first one, but if a hybrid is better than whatever…

Just trying to help resolve this, I bumume that’s the preferred response (as opposed to getting ****y or loudly pointing out the rampant copyright abuse that we know and love as Itembuildr image subs)

AIDS woman's genitals

Avatar: 184403 2009-09-17 04:10:15 -0400
25

Level 69 Troll

show me your zucchini and I'll show you my cugreat timesber :zak:

CrinkzPipe Posted:

no peen imo

Posting for no peen.

Kittysan

Avatar: Jimmy the Re-Re
82

Level 40 Re-Re

I'm a fabulous person who goes back on Dom ties

man-man Posted:

I came across the HTDTE page, and the rest of the guy’s website, and found it freaking hilarious. I didn’t really expect the sub to win to be honest, so I wasn’t expecting this to come up. If it offends you that I saw something awesome and wanted to maybe make some buildr jokes about it then… well I don’t even know what recourse there is at this point. My sincerest apologies if I’ve ****ed off the plagiarism police.

I haven’t gotten around to submitting anything yet (end time is 2am here, I’m busy all morning and most of the afternoon… could be this evening before I’ve got any time to make with the funny). I don’t know how people are so quick, but I was watching the scores last night – mine was in a very close 2nd/tied for first (at one point in a 3-way tie for first) for a fair while before the end, and took the lead with a couple hours to go. Anyone obsessively watching buildr to get their subs in quickly would have had some time to at least realise that Illuminati Job Board wasn’t a sure thing and start thinking.

I’m surprised at how man-man handle this, which is pretty well. And yes, the HTDTE page is hilarious. Still, it doesn’t mean someone can submit that idea as his own, let alone win it.

As for suspiciously quick submissions, if those aren’t yours (and I believe the admins can verify that,) then fine. Those logos are low quality ones which can be patched up within 30 minutes or less anyway. I’m sorry for directing my suspicion of foul play at you. After ghax’s one-man alt abuse, it’s easy to believe only one person is responsible for all the wrong things that happen.

Now if we’re going to fix this, apart from changing the description, the forum name, International Earth Destruction Advisory Board, must be changed as well. Because that too, was written by Mr.Sam Hughes. Even the word “Geocide” was thought up by him.

I offer another solution, that is contacting Mr.Hughes himself, asking if he’s okay for ForumWarz to expand upon his joke. Who knows? This could benefit both parties involved. It won’t hurt to try, will it?

Kittysan edited this message on 10/19/2009 6:40PM

SanDyk

Avatar: 175636 2012-01-01 09:50:12 -0500
21

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 69 Troll

I am the internet equivelent of Jon Stewart! Except less funny...

Skyman747 Posted:

Do you have nothing better to do than google every idea that wins and isn’t yours?

I’m going to have to agree with this.

Yes it’s plagirism, and that’s terrible, but there’s no need to make a huge ****ing deal of it.

There’s been worse forum ideas than this one and even ones that have won with a more controversial way than plagiarism.

Johnny Mac

Avatar: 37704 2022-12-12 08:49:44 +0000
66

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 60 Troll

I grant you an bumhole x

Maybe man-man is Sam Hughes, ever thought of that?

mterek

Avatar: 192622 2009-09-24 16:39:01 -0400
18

[mahjong]

Level 69 Re-Re

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Johnny Mac Posted:

Maybe man-man is Sam Hughes, ever thought of that?

It’ still illegal though. If we go my INCIT rules at least.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

SanDyk Posted:

I’m going to have to agree with this.

Yes it’s plagirism, and that’s terrible, but there’s no need to make a huge ****ing deal of it.

There’s been worse forum ideas than this one and even ones that have won with a more controversial way than plagiarism.

Making a thread is making a huge deal of it? Oh ****, we are all making a huge deal over Evil Trout/Wechall/incit/Forumwarz everytime we post about it.

It does seem like a pretty funny site that it is possible that people have read before.

Melanin-Enha-
nced Individ-
ual

Avatar: 174541 2012-01-02 15:34:06 -0500

[enjoy GANG]

Level 35 Troll

If I can write this, my whole life has been wasted. I'm worthless and awful.

hey guys I have a great idea, lets make a huge deal out of everything that happens on an online game that doesnt really matter in the grand scheme of things. sound good?

good.

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

You know what… I kinda said I didn’t want to do this, I didn’t. But I think we should also ensure we have proper permission to use the following images:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/ING/IG1944_a.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31w74hySh7L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://cdn.stumble-upon.com/mthumb/173/16399173.jpg

http://www.synthmania.com/Famous%20Sounds/Images/Old_computer.jpg

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/05/16/awesome-tattoo.jpg

http://img12.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/d/f/1/b/d/df1bd17ff10d6db8ea4f65359f9d692f_full.jpg

http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc335/th_05928_crissymorandc729_4_040_123_335lo.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/347/11vm4.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj86/waynehanzdus/200608281901-pix1.jpg

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2008/04/11/15/28-TOPIX_NAILED_SKULL.highlight.prod_affiliate.4.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/07/31/international/31holocaust.xlarge.jpg

http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc594/th_GirlsNextDoorHalloween02_594lo.jpg

http://www.clients.squareeye.com/uploads/croatia/CLpicture.jpg

http://idol-box.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/fukunaga_china_1_05.jpg

http://www.craphound.com/images/DSCN0309.jpg

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/flux-capacitor-merkaba-hexagram0.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/xtJCQ4BLK0OG2WCVlIfSK5xDwUMo0-gN2*Q1Ze07ti0_/money.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qDI615ixLmQ/RzRdrl4XUtI/AAAAAAAAAS8/lL07Y7D5RvQ/s400/Covered.jpg

All of which were copied into Forumwarz directly enough for the comparative image search provided by the good folks at tineye.com to find the original image. Maybe not always the original source, but it shows they’ve been copied from somewhere.

Blatant and uncredited copying from anywhere and everywhere is the de facto standard for user generated content on this site, we all know that. I know that doesn’t make it any more valid, but I do feel like I’m having a lot more hostility directed at me for this than is really proportional for what I’ve actually done, especially when compared to the complete lack of care about all of the image subs above.

Raepdog

Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
9

[To Your Scattered -
Raepdogs Go
]

Level 35 Camwhore

We are foe.

Shii Posted:

You do realize that there’s basically one way to win Forum Style, and that’s to copy the colors in the logo as closely as possible, and that typically results in many very similar forum styles.

Finally someone said this! I… Jesus people are stupid thinking that everyone is copying them. Yes Fingerz before you go yes I accused you long ago bumhurt is over blah blah.

This is srs, like srs. Someone took an idea and pbumed it off as their own which is against the rules. ****ty forum idea and unfunny bull**** aside, and the probably sore bum of who ever started this thread, he does indeed have a point. The forum should be void, and probably for legal reasons deleted.

As for the bad ideas being submitted its easy to have 500+ bad ideas and submit them all really fast because you have a big buildr score. Its as if.. having almost unlimited submissions is… bad??

Raepdog

Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
9

[To Your Scattered -
Raepdogs Go
]

Level 35 Camwhore

We are foe.

man-man Posted:

Blatant and uncredited copying from anywhere and everywhere is the de facto standard for user generated content on this site, we all know that. I know that doesn’t make it any more valid, but I do feel like I’m having a lot more hostility directed at me for this than is really proportional for what I’ve actually done, especially when compared to the complete lack of care about all of the image subs above.

Um, okay other people did **** also. But you word for word copied from another site. Putting up a bunch of other examples does not make it right. Taking an image and working it into your logo, modifying it, and changing it is not nearly as bad as taking another person’s ideas word for word and pbuming it off as your own.

Also items are cited most of the time, information is given that they are not your own. You did nothing of the sort.

Raepdog edited this message on 10/19/2009 7:49PM

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

Raepdog Posted:

Um, okay other people did **** also. But you word for word copied from another site. Putting up a bunch of other examples does not make it right. Taking an image and working it into your logo, modifying it, and changing it is not nearly as bad as taking another person’s ideas word for word and pbuming it off as your own.

I believe I said right there, I know it’s no more valid or right. At this point I’m entirely beyond caring whether the forum gets edited, voided, deleted, whatever. Just saying the problem’s a little more endemic than that’s going to solve. I’m can see I’m in the wrong here, but I don’t see that anyone running the show can claim the moral high ground given the lack of action against equally ‘wrong’ things.

As for “working it into your logo, modifying it, and changing it”, the examples posted weren’t edited at all beyond a simple crop – similar enough for an automated process to see that they’re the same. They’re just as direct a copy as taking a funny idea about Earth-based destruction and submitting it as a forum, if not more direct.

Melanin-Enha-
nced Individ-
ual

Avatar: 174541 2012-01-02 15:34:06 -0500

[enjoy GANG]

Level 35 Troll

If I can write this, my whole life has been wasted. I'm worthless and awful.

Lee_Harvey_Oswald Posted:

hey guys I have a great idea, lets make a huge deal out of everything that happens on an online game that doesnt really matter in the grand scheme of things. sound good?

good.

This is the internet, none of you are making money off of it, or are you benefiting other than through internet achievements. why dont you all stop arguing and like, I don’t know go do something else.

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

Lee_Harvey_Oswald Posted:

This is the internet, none of you are making money off of it, or are you benefiting other than through internet achievements. why dont you all stop arguing and like, I don’t know go do something else.

Because then I’d keep on being wrong, and there’d be no-one to tell me otherwise.

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