man-man Posted:

The fact that I never even saw them (first time I checked was about 3-4 hours in, only 2 ideas were left by then) is kinda putting me off Itembuildr at the moment. Which is a shame; I’ve enjoyed making images for it before, but if the winning ideas are all somewhat lame then making images for them is no fun.

Yeah, most of the ideas that have won so far have been a bit Log in to see images!

Afterthotz Posted:

This, a hundred times this. I’m never around at 3 when they voting starts, and by the time I DO get to take a peek, we’re always down to very few suggestions that haven’t been -5’d.

I never got to see any of the other suggestions either. And yes, I know this might sound weird, but I certainly didn’t expect ‘The list’ to survive and win.

“Give anyone a lever long enough and they can change the world. It’s unreliable levers that are the problem.”

The trouble is, Buildr is turning into INCIT. Any decent idea gets downvoted, as it poses a threat. That only leaves the ****ty ones. Yay.

If you want to tackle this, just prevent people who submit something from downvoting in that category. For example, if I submit an item idea, I can still vote on images, but I can’t downvote every other idea sub just so mine has an advantage. Let them upvote, but don’t let submitters downvote. Apply the same to ForumBuilr, and you’ll curb a lot of this.

Sarcasm Inc Posted:

If you want to tackle this, just prevent people who submit something from downvoting in that category. For example, if I submit an item idea, I can still vote on images, but I can’t downvote every other idea sub just so mine has an advantage. Let them upvote, but don’t let submitters downvote. Apply the same to ForumBuilr, and you’ll curb a lot of this.

I like this idea quite a bit. It doesn’t completely lock those that participate out of voting for what they’re in; it just locks out the easy to abuse part of voting.

man-man Posted:

I’m not sure Itembuildr really needs submissions to removed for a low score – there’s not normally that many of them to start with, especially on the images side. I’d suggest letting scores continue to drop past -5 without the submission disappearing. The chance of a comeback might be slim but it’s possible. Also I would be amused to see just how low the score on a ****ty sub could go.

This. at the very least it would give those who are legitimately voting instead of submitting then downvoting things into oblivion. Also, consider the idea of not being allowed to vote if you submitted, also a good idea imo.

man-man Posted:

I’m not sure Itembuildr really needs submissions to removed for a low score – there’s not normally that many of them to start with, especially on the images side. I’d suggest letting scores continue to drop past -5 without the submission disappearing. The chance of a comeback might be slim but it’s possible. Also I would be amused to see just how low the score on a ****ty sub could go.

I endorse this idea as well. Not a perfect solution, but pretty good for the interim.

I’d be much more likely to participate if I knew that my vote seemed to make a difference, even if it means the “winner” had a score of -27.

Sarcasm Inc Posted:

The trouble is, Buildr is turning into INCIT. Any decent idea gets downvoted, as it poses a threat. That only leaves the ****ty ones. Yay.

If you want to tackle this, just prevent people who submit something from downvoting in that category. For example, if I submit an item idea, I can still vote on images, but I can’t downvote every other idea sub just so mine has an advantage. Let them upvote, but don’t let submitters downvote. Apply the same to ForumBuilr, and you’ll curb a lot of this.

Whether or not they were bad entries doesn’t matter when -2 was winning after 10 minutes of voting. The goal seems to be to knock as much out as possible as soon as possible so there’s less competition when people start voting fairly. I agree with the option of forbidding downvoting in categories that you enter. Then again this will allow idiotic entries like the all W’s one today to stick around longer. Limiting the number of downvotes to something like 75% of all entries might help with this.

man-man Posted:

I’m not sure Itembuildr really needs submissions to removed for a low score – there’s not normally that many of them to start with, especially on the images side. I’d suggest letting scores continue to drop past -5 without the submission disappearing. The chance of a comeback might be slim but it’s possible. Also I would be amused to see just how low the score on a ****ty sub could go.

This. I didn’t even get to see most of the subs, so it’s hardly a fair shake.

There isn’t a whole lot of chocolate available for itembuildr, though. The voting pool is about 90 votes, so theoretically the max one can get is 18 scoops with all upvotes and no downvotes. In comparison, one could get 12 votes with a successful hour of INCIT and 20 scoops with 10 subs that get 10 upvotes.