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I do, certainly. I think CZ should consider running a few quick fixes past it even before the dom fixes get put in place, though I like dom too.
1. limit the number of entries a person can submit for forum idea.
2. completely remove all image and youtube linking in buildr categories.
Those are two that I think are most important. AFter those (and this will take more time and a lot more thought) a reworking of the scoring algorithm is in order, imo. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 1:35PM | View Fortunato's Profile | # | ||||||
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Fortunato Posted:
Great idea. Probably the only reason why Bashy wins with forumbuildr constantly is that all of the forum ideas are his (slight exaggeration but you get what I mean). The only thing is how many to limit them by? Only one per week sounds reasonable but I’m sure there will be plenty of people out there who disagree with that.
Fortunato Posted:
I don’t understand this. I don’t see why you shouldn’t put pics in normal/angry posts… actually that’s the only place I can think you should be able to put pics/youtube vids.
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 1:55PM | View SanDyk's Profile | # | ||||||
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SanDyk Posted:
I agree with this. I’m tired of seeing 4000 forum ideas all by the same person, thereby locking a win down. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 1:59PM | View Joseph of Suburb...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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SanDyk Posted:
See the current submission list, complete with table breaking giant images. Not to mention that sometimes the images and videos in question get removed. How does the forum look when they are? Like crap, that’s how. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:01PM | View Fortunato's Profile | # | ||||||
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Fortunato Posted:
Fair point, but if images are too large then surely they could be scaled down like they are in these forums?
As for when videos/pics that get deleted leaving broken links that can’t really be helped. I suppose you could host the pics on forumwarz but I doubt that CZ want more of their bandwidth used just so there can be pictures on the forums.
I can’t see a nice solution for this one Log in to see images! SanDyk edited this message on 08/31/2009 2:12PM |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:11PM | View SanDyk's Profile | # | ||||||
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I add block all pics and youtubes in the community forums anyway, just sayin’. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:17PM | View Amasius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Amasius Posted:
That’s cuz you’re a speed freak and it helps the connection to load fewer things.
Anyway, I support both points. I support removing images for the reasons Fortunato mentioned, as well as the fact that they’re usually posted without permission and published on another website: i.e. copyright infringement. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:25PM | View Shii's Profile | # | ||||||
SanDyk Posted:
I disagree. The only reason he wins is because people voted for them. Like it or not, many of his ideas are good. And while I don’t like his monopoly over forum ideas (after all, I’m one of his many competitors), I unwittingly vote for good ideas which turn out to be his from time to time. If any of Bashy’s idea sucks, natural selection will do its job and shoot it down.
Fortunato Posted:
Table breaking giant images are annoying, but at the same time they’re voted down quickly. As for the removal of images, perhaps there should be a rule on using only free image hostings which never remove them? Or Log in to see images! could choose to host those image themselves. As for videos, there is nothing much to be done about them.
At least using images in Typical Posts and Angry Replies should continue to be allowed. An image worth more than a thousand words, after all. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:30PM | View Kittysan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Kittysan Posted:
no, see, people submit other people’s images. Lolcats. Memes. Image macros that are years old. You can’t exactly do that with text. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:32PM | View Fortunato's Profile | # | ||||||
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I’ve always agreed about killing img and youtube tags, and we’ve been talking about reducing max submissions and making it tougher to increase/maintain your buildr score for some time.
Unfortunately, forumbuildr revisions is tied to our Domination revision schedule and just hasn’t been considered top priority, this week’s shenanigans notwithstanding. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:34PM | View Jalapeno Bootyho...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Kittysan Posted:
This is just really hard to believe. You’re looking at Fran is Fat right now, it seems like it proves the opposite. His ideas are ideas for forums, not parodies of forums. It’s hard for some of us to wrap our heads around. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:44PM | View 1337xxxxxxxxxlol...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Kittysan Posted:
It’s hard to answer this without a sarcastic comment. Obviously things win cause they have the most votes, that’s how this game works, but when a majority of forum subs are probably his anyway it’s difficult for him NOT to win. I don’t know, perhaps people should make more forum subs to oppose his ideas but people are usually put off by that since it’s easier to get a winning entry in other sections than this one Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 2:57PM | View SanDyk's Profile | # | ||||||
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Shii Posted: If that’d be true I’d add block all images in my browser but I don’t. I don’t have a very fast Internet connection, so I can’t really rely on an optimal output of lemon scoops anyway. I just don’t like those pics and youtubes, they only show a lack of creativity. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:04PM | View Amasius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Amasius Posted:
also true. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:06PM | View Shii's Profile | # | ||||||
1337xxxxxxxxxlolololololololololxxxxxxxxx1337 Posted:
Well, yes, natural selection missed one. And see the result… Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:21PM | View Kittysan's Profile | # | ||||||
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I think intelligent design makes more sense as an analogy. And I think your answer seems to indicate you didn’t get my point. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:25PM | View 1337xxxxxxxxxlol...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Submissions with an image or youtube link always get a downvote from me. I agree that it shows a lack of creativity. I’m not sure limiting the number of forum idea submissions is fair – if someone can come up with that many decent ideas, then I don’t see why they shouldn’t be able to submit them. A better fix would be the introduction of buildr seasons, which has been suggested in the domination advisory board (and perhaps elsewhere). |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:34PM | View wtfmcnuggets's Profile | # | ||||||
1337xxxxxxxxxlolololololololololxxxxxxxxx1337 Posted: Which is…? 1337xxxxxxxxxlolololololololololxxxxxxxxx1337 Posted: Since when has the line been blurred? And, how can you draw the line between “ideas for forums” and “parodies of forums” anyway? After all, as long as there are subjects people are interested in, there are forums for them. Log in to see images!
Except for some extremely stupid ideas (forums for serial killers, stalkers, or other criminal activities), I can see people talking about those topics (yes, even Post-Apocalyptic Survival Society.) And if people talk about them, they’re subject to parodies.
Oh, and: Fortunato Posted: Yes, you can. Texts, like images, can be copied and repeated. Old jokes that are decades old are still circulated today. wtfmcnuggets Posted: Not always. What if the submitter create a new picture just for that submission? And as I said, text can be repeated too.
Not that I submit a lot of pictures or anything. But sometimes I feel a picture would do a job better than a long line of text. Kittysan edited this message on 08/31/2009 4:05PM |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 3:56PM | View Kittysan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Kittysan Posted:
Honestly, that’s just naive. No one ever does that even for Itembuildr, where it’s supposedly a requirement.
No one ever makes their own pictures for Forumbuildr. Ever. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 4:08PM | View Shii's Profile | # | ||||||
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Shii Posted:
That’s not exactly true. The vast majority don’t, but a few have.
They don’t do very well usually, but that’s besides the point. |
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Posted On: 08/31/2009 4:11PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||