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item buildr making FWZ look unprofessional?
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PLEASE NOTE: THIS THREAD IS NOT TALKING ABOUT COSTS, IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE STATS OF THE ITEMS GENERATED BY ITEM BUILDR Before reading/posting in this thread, I ask you to look through all the items in [url=http://www.forumwarz.com/stores/item_buildr]the item buildr store, as well as your clbum store items. I will be using Emo Kids as an example for this post, mainly because the most items that have been made is for Emo Kids, and I’m to lazy to do each clbum. Feel free to add the comparisons for other clbumes. To start out, look at the Crossed Out Name Tattoo, and the My Dead Girlfriend tattoo. What is the use of having a item with the same exact stats, but only 27 less tears? They both have 1 less defense, and give less tears than the best tattoo in the EP2 Emo Kid store. Now then, look at all the piercings in the store. All better than the best Emo Kid piercing, but only one, the Soul Piercing has different stats. The Spinal Tap, and the Stigmata are the same with different tears(and secondary stats aren’t really needed anymore) but big jumps in defense. I understand the lower defense lets you get to a lower ego faster, but with a lot of forums, even defense matters for Emo Kids. I do understand this lets people without EP2 get better items, but people without EP2 could already get those items through Kyoubai, making that purpose useless. I know CZ could probably care less about how professional they look, but item buildr will keep on spiting out useless crap like this unless ET makes a fix that fixes the way it generates item stats, or he finds out a way to pre-plan items. Feel free to look through your own clbumes stuff to see what I’m talking about.
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| Posted On: 04/13/2009 5:55PM |
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Before this thread goes too much further, there are plans to address itembuildr. CZ is well aware of the issue and will hopefully have some sort of fix soon. Hopefully the sooner side of “soon”, but I’m not giving specifics.. mostly because there aren’t any until they decide *how* to fix it and what needs to be done. |
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| Posted On: 04/13/2009 6:04PM |
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It’s #1 on my list for discussion at this week’s meeting. There’s a large ticket open for it in the bug tracker.
I promise things will be improved this week. |
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| Posted On: 04/13/2009 6:05PM |
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We did indeed talk about it last night. This afternoon I am going to take a stab at it, trying a few new approaches.
Hopefully the next auto-generated item will reflect it. |
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| Posted On: 04/14/2009 11:46AM |
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Evil Trout Posted:
Just remember, you are the boss, and you can’t be bullied into ruining your site by either your peers or the many headed talking hydra that is the community. We are here for suggestions only. |
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| Posted On: 04/14/2009 11:56AM |
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I actually caught a cold so yesterday was a short day. And then today I had a physical at my Dr’s so I didn’t get to it in time for this build. Hopefully the next one!
tl;dr Still working on it… |
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| Posted On: 04/15/2009 3:23PM |
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I’m pretty happy with the tweaks to the item generation code so I’ve pushed them out. Our next build should (Hopefully!) be much cooler. Here’s some other related stuff:
http://blog.forumwarz.com/2009/4/16/itembuildr-updates
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| Posted On: 04/16/2009 5:00PM |
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Can we get a list of what changed, how it changed, and why it changed? |
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| Posted On: 04/16/2009 7:42PM |
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Evil Trout Posted:
Why so vague on the details? Care to elaborate on how it was generating items stats/cost? Or was it just Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 04/16/2009 10:51PM |
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| Posted On: 04/17/2009 9:35AM |
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This is all well and good, however, two items into your new code and it is still putting out emo related items. |
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| Posted On: 04/19/2009 4:12PM |
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Xylon Posted:
I think (and if not I will make more adjustments) this is just ensuring that there’s a really high chance that the next item will be hardware. |
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| Posted On: 04/19/2009 6:31PM |
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Heres hoping. Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 04/20/2009 2:40PM |
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Yet another Emo item.
You really need to look that coding, ET. |
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| Posted On: 04/20/2009 3:31PM |
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Fran Posted:
Do emos actually use any of these items? They seem to get a ridiculous number of them. |
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| Posted On: 04/20/2009 3:36PM |
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Fran Posted:
Looking into it now!
edit: No wait, that’s the same item from yesterday. I’m stupid. That was still likely, give it until tomorrow before we freak out Log in to see images! Evil Trout edited this message on 04/20/2009 4:16PM |
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| Posted On: 04/20/2009 4:12PM |
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