ET – why are you wasting your time trying to jury rig a failed idea?

After a short time once again we’ll be in the same position we already were yesterday, with none of these new rewards achievable by nearly anyone, except with an insane commitment of time and effort. Why would you encourage that?

(edit, quite a bit too harsh – sorry)

Catt although Posted:

Actually, Trout had at one point said this might be implemented “shortly after E2 is launched”

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/12110

I think that refers to speedruns, not leaderboards.

the Pro Posted:

No, they’re dependent on clicking stuff, buying/selling marbles, etc. Clbumes don’t matter there either.

Also job points by clbum are equally silly, every clbum gets the same jobs afaik.

I was thinking that the majority of Kyoubai was driven by .moar files, which means pwning specific forums, which is harder on Perman00bs due to equipment repair costs I think. Same with running jobs, again due to item repair cost. But you’ve analyzed the data much more than I have so you’re probably right.

the Pro Posted:

Also job points by clbum are equally silly, every clbum gets the same jobs afaik.

Yeah, jobs are based on your level and community speedrun times. Both of those are a problem depending on clbum, since Trolls have an advantage in pwning forums at their level (especially in higher levels) and Hackers and Permanoobs have a disadvantage in both. This problem is compounded when the better jobs are for harder forums and/or timed runs.

Fortunato Posted:

Yeah I was looking at the troll one and thinking crap, I’m no better off than I am before.

Yeah. Some Leaderboards are WAY too easy to top now depending which clbum you are, it sucks trolls dominate most leaderboards so nothing has changed for me (I might have a small chance topping the job point leaderboard)

I mean, the board I really care about, Buildr score, is still inaccessible for me because half of the top 15 buildrs are emos, so I understand why some are frustrated with it.

But then Full of SALE and Gavel Time are both going to be a piece of cake for me. So it’s a double-edged sword.

Pluvius Posted:

I’ll go ahead and disclose that I now have a much better chance of getting both If Only It Were Real Money and Brown Nose because SG94 and Bling Fling are off the lists, but that’s not the reason why I think that those two boards would make sense to partition.

Yeah the flezz board needed seperating, my emo get’s nowhere near what my hacker and camwhore get, and my troll is suffering from running forums with luck at 1, where as my hacker and camwhore can easily get back up to full luck for rollover.

What is the other board and why does that benefit from seperation?

Andy_Dextruss Posted:

Why don’t they just retire people from the leaderboard 2-4 weeks after they get the peen to avoid hogging?

Probably because some people like their high rank on the things, and also, if the top people kept disappearing, then it would make it really, really easy. Ther- ...I’m just making random stuff up.

That idea would work great too.

Andy_Dextruss Posted:

Why don’t they just retire people from the leaderboard 2-4 weeks after they get the peen to avoid hogging?

That’s one way of solving hogging, but does nothing for newer players, who will still never see any of these rewards, no matter how much effort they put into the game.

Showing leaderboards by clbum is fine. Awarding e-peens by clbum (especially stuff like Freemason or Miss Popularity) makes no sense at all.

The only real time a case could be made to award peens by clbum would be Brown Nose peen, as Trolls still have a speed advantage, and how luck plays some part in determining what types of jobs you’re offered, so Hackers could end up ahead, etc. It isn’t a great case (especially considering a camwhore tops that board), but I can at least understand why someone would do it, as opposed to every other leaderboard-related peen.

Ricket Posted:

Showing leaderboards by clbum is fine. Awarding e-peens by clbum (especially stuff like Freemason or Miss Popularity) makes no sense at all.

That’s pretty much the most to the point way to put it. Disagree on Job Points (as even Permanoobs with a bit of time to waste can get 5 points a visit like Bling Fling has for the past months) but I may be biased on that issue.

I’ve been pretty firm in my opposition to this so I would like to note that while I lost the exclusiveness of Brown Nose on Bling Fling I also gained 1337 on GS49 and Else, and with the way scully/Lester’s been acting 1337 may even be within reach on my main. So there you have the lowdown on how this change affects me so you can judge whether I’m posting in self-interest or not accordingly.