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Fear Is For The Weak Posted:
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:49PM | View shrtcat's Profile | # | ||||||
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This Cosmic Knower, the *Player of the Cosmic Process,* is pure energy. It is intelligent. It is conscious. It is a Person. And this Player is also creative!
Considering cosmic creativity, Bohm introduces a new concept in which he describes the Implicate Order as a kind of *generative order.* He notes that “This order is primarily concerned not with the outward side of development, and evolution in a sequence of successions, but with a deeper and more inward order out of which the manifest form of things can emerge *creatively.*”
Bohm believes that the generative order “proceeds from an origin in free play which then unfolds into ever more crystallized forms.” Generative order can be seen in the work of an artist. Bohm uses the example of Mandelbrot’s mathematically-derived fractals to illustrate more scientifically this cosmic generativity. “Fractals involve an order of similar differences which include changes of scale as well as other possible changes.” Bohm notes that “By choosing different base figures and generators, but each time applying the generator on a smaller and smaller scale, Mandelbrot is able to produce a great variety of shapes and figures—All are filled with infinitesimal detail and are evocative of the types of complexity found in natural forms.” |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:49PM | View BirdofPrey's Profile | # | ||||||
OverclockedJesus Posted:
Pwnd.Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:49PM | View shrtcat's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
explain light |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:51PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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BirdofPrey Posted: Mystical, self-contradictory nonsense. Conscious pure energy? Consciousness requires something to be conscious of. Disembodied consciousness is self-contradictory. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:51PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted: What prevents multiple different interacting copies of “existence”?
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:52PM | View DarkDespair5's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
Fear Is For The Weak Posted:
fixed
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:52PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted: I think he was joking around.
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:52PM | View DarkDespair5's Profile | # | ||||||
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Tesfan Posted: Tesfan, he just gave his answer
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:53PM | View DarkDespair5's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hobart Bliggity Posted: http://www.howstuffworks.com/light.htm
IOW: trying to create mysteries so you can stick god there is the god-of-the-gaps fallacy. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:54PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Bohm is somewhat reserved about the theoretical prospects of cosmic personalization; nonetheless, he points to such a possibility in vague, cyclic terminology about human projections: “each of these elements is a projection, in a sub-totality of yet higher dimension. So it will be ultimately misleading and indeed wrong to suppose, for example, that each human being is an independent actuality who interacts with other human beings and with nature. Rather, all these are projections of a single totality. As a human being takes part in the process of this totality, he is fundamentally changed in the very activity in which his aim is to change that reality which is the content of his consciousness.”
Bohm considers that consciousness is an exchange between the explicate and implicate orders. Consciousness is part of the play of the cosmic process, grasping itself (through its sub-totalities) into higher and higher levels of consciousness. Logically, if cosmic sub-totalities (such as human beings) can be considered to be persons (of which only a few are developing toward higher levels of Personhood), than through the feedback interchange, the cosmos is becoming progressively personalized as well. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:54PM | View BirdofPrey's Profile | # | ||||||
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Fear Is For The Weak Posted:
No proof, which is exactly my point. Any claims about the absolute existence of God are inherently faith-based, ergo belief in no God is the same as belief in God. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:54PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
You missed it. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:55PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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DarkDespair5 Posted: The basic workings of the backdrop. Two things cannot occupy the same space, right?
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:55PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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DarkDespair5 Posted: Possibly. But with the trolling that one has done too: it’s hard to be sure. The intertubes lack nuances. |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:56PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted: How do we know there is merely a single backdrop that encompbumes infinity?
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:57PM | View DarkDespair5's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hobart Bliggity Posted: Then any claims about the absolute existence or non-existence of square circles are faith as well.
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:57PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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dude, if your so sure you’ve unveiled all the mysteries of the cosmos mabye you should spread the word! i’m sure there are hundreds of scientists and philosophers who would be glad to know their questions have been answered BirdofPrey edited this message on 12/07/2008 9:58PM |
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:58PM | View BirdofPrey's Profile | # | ||||||
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DarkDespair5 Posted: Because infinity is merely a mathematical concept relating to sets-without-limits, not a real thing.
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:58PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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BirdofPrey Posted: Do you know what a strawman is?
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Posted On: 12/07/2008 9:59PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||