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Religion God doesn't exist you fools.

shrtcat

Avatar: 79911 Sat Nov 15 22:45:44 -0500 2008
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Fear Is For The Weak Posted:

Proof? Answer that. Or else you’re even stupider than anyone who posted in this thread.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

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I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

This Cosmic Knower, the *Player of the Cosmic Process,* is pure energy. It is intelligent. It is conscious. It is a Person. And this Player is also creative!

Considering cosmic creativity, Bohm introduces a new concept in which he describes the Implicate Order as a kind of *generative order.* He notes that “This order is primarily concerned not with the outward side of development, and evolution in a sequence of successions, but with a deeper and more inward order out of which the manifest form of things can emerge *creatively.*”

Bohm believes that the generative order “proceeds from an origin in free play which then unfolds into ever more crystallized forms.” Generative order can be seen in the work of an artist. Bohm uses the example of Mandelbrot’s mathematically-derived fractals to illustrate more scientifically this cosmic generativity. “Fractals involve an order of similar differences which include changes of scale as well as other possible changes.” Bohm notes that “By choosing different base figures and generators, but each time applying the generator on a smaller and smaller scale, Mandelbrot is able to produce a great variety of shapes and figures—All are filled with infinitesimal detail and are evocative of the types of complexity found in natural forms.”

shrtcat

Avatar: 79911 Sat Nov 15 22:45:44 -0500 2008
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Level 25 Emo Kid

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OverclockedJesus Posted:

Yes.

Are you 100% certain that square circles do not exist, bearing in mind that a circle is defined as the locus of all points equidistant from a central point, and a square is an equilateral quadrilateral with all interior angles being right angles?

Now if you don’t understand how I can compare the two, you really need to work on your ability to make conceptual leaps. If something is defined in such a way as to have self-contradictory or otherwise contradictory attributes, it necessarily cannot exist. This is basic stuff, and someone who supposedly went to college should be able to grasp it.

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Indiana Jonas

Avatar: 13850 2014-12-19 09:36:26 -0500
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OverclockedJesus Posted:

Yes.

Are you 100% certain that square circles do not exist, bearing in mind that a circle is defined as the locus of all points equidistant from a central point, and a square is an equilateral quadrilateral with all interior angles being right angles?

Now if you don’t understand how I can compare the two, you really need to work on your ability to make conceptual leaps. If something is defined in such a way as to have self-contradictory or otherwise contradictory attributes, it necessarily cannot exist. This is basic stuff, and someone who supposedly went to college should be able to grasp it.

explain light

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

BirdofPrey Posted:

This Cosmic Knower, the *Player of the Cosmic Process,* is pure energy. It is intelligent. It is conscious. It is a Person. And this Player is also creative!

Mystical, self-contradictory nonsense. Conscious pure energy? Consciousness requires something to be conscious of. Disembodied consciousness is self-contradictory.

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

OverclockedJesus Posted:

Yes. The universe is the framework for existence. It is existence, in a way. Without the universe as the backdrop, what is meant by “exist”?

What prevents multiple different interacting copies of “existence”?

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
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Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

OverclockedJesus Posted:

For the record I am 100% certain that God does not exist

Fear Is For The Weak Posted:

Proof? Answer that. Or else you’re even stupider than anyone who posted in this thread.

fixed

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

OverclockedJesus Posted:

Mystical, self-contradictory nonsense. Conscious pure energy? Consciousness requires something to be conscious of. Disembodied consciousness is self-contradictory.

I think he was joking around.

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

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Tesfan Posted:

fixed

Tesfan, he just gave his answer

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

Hobart Bliggity Posted:

explain light

http://www.howstuffworks.com/light.htm

IOW: trying to create mysteries so you can stick god there is the god-of-the-gaps fallacy.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 10 Troll

I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

Bohm is somewhat reserved about the theoretical prospects of cosmic personalization; nonetheless, he points to such a possibility in vague, cyclic terminology about human projections: “each of these elements is a projection, in a sub-totality of yet higher dimension. So it will be ultimately misleading and indeed wrong to suppose, for example, that each human being is an independent actuality who interacts with other human beings and with nature. Rather, all these are projections of a single totality. As a human being takes part in the process of this totality, he is fundamentally changed in the very activity in which his aim is to change that reality which is the content of his consciousness.”

Bohm considers that consciousness is an exchange between the explicate and implicate orders. Consciousness is part of the play of the cosmic process, grasping itself (through its sub-totalities) into higher and higher levels of consciousness. Logically, if cosmic sub-totalities (such as human beings) can be considered to be persons (of which only a few are developing toward higher levels of Personhood), than through the feedback interchange, the cosmos is becoming progressively personalized as well.

Indiana Jonas

Avatar: 13850 2014-12-19 09:36:26 -0500
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Level 35 Troll

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Fear Is For The Weak Posted:

Proof? Answer that. Or else you’re even stupider than anyone who posted in this thread.

No proof, which is exactly my point. Any claims about the absolute existence of God are inherently faith-based, ergo belief in no God is the same as belief in God.

Indiana Jonas

Avatar: 13850 2014-12-19 09:36:26 -0500
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OverclockedJesus Posted:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/light.htm

IOW: trying to create mysteries so you can stick god there is the god-of-the-gaps fallacy.

You missed it.

OverclockedJ-
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Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

DarkDespair5 Posted:

What prevents multiple different interacting copies of “existence”?

The basic workings of the backdrop. Two things cannot occupy the same space, right?

OverclockedJ-
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Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

DarkDespair5 Posted:

I think he was joking around.

Possibly. But with the trolling that one has done too: it’s hard to be sure. The intertubes lack nuances.

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

OverclockedJesus Posted:

The basic workings of the backdrop. Two things cannot occupy the same space, right?

How do we know there is merely a single backdrop that encompbumes infinity?

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

Hobart Bliggity Posted:

No proof, which is exactly my point. Any claims about the absolute existence of God are inherently faith-based, ergo belief in no God is the same as belief in God.

Then any claims about the absolute existence or non-existence of square circles are faith as well.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 10 Troll

I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

dude, if your so sure you’ve unveiled all the mysteries of the cosmos mabye you should spread the word! i’m sure there are hundreds of scientists and philosophers who would be glad to know their questions have been answered

BirdofPrey edited this message on 12/07/2008 9:58PM

OverclockedJ-
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Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

DarkDespair5 Posted:

How do we know there is merely a single backdrop that encompbumes infinity?

Because infinity is merely a mathematical concept relating to sets-without-limits, not a real thing.

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

BirdofPrey Posted:

dude, if your so sure you’ve unveiled all the mysteries of the cosmos mabye you should spread the word!

Do you know what a strawman is?

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