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This thread is intended to be a serious discussion of GD rules, so I put it here.
I completely understand that there should be a place where people can have serious discussions about the game without being trolled, but I think the rules are a little too strict.
I don’t want this thread to become an “UNBAN ______” thread, or a “Banhammer sucks as a mod” thread, because he is doing what he should by enforcing the rules how they are now. I just think that maybe the rules should be changed a little to not ban someone for making a funny post that might be a slight jab against someone else as long as it is at least relevant to the topic or doesn’t completely derail the thread.
Also, allcaps/boldcaps is a pretty silly reason to ban someone I think. IMO it would be like banning someone for using emoticons in GD.
How it is now, Game Discussion should be renamed to BANZONE: IF YOU ARE A FUNNY OR GOOD POSTER POST HERE TO BE BANNED.
Many of the things people are banned for are petty things that don’t affect the thread as a whole at all. I think that if you are going to ban people for obvious jokes at the expense of someone who takes the internet too seriously in a game about trolling, it gets a little gay.
I think Banhammer said it well with a post about how everyone had to type “I am not easily offended” before coming on the site. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think trolling should be encouraged in Game Discussion, and I think that threads with specific game-related questions should be left alone but come on, sometimes a little blank line spam or not so subtle jabs against people are funny.
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 2:59PM | View FAIL's Profile | # | ||||||
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swingin’ my banhammer at this thread |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 3:02PM | View BirdofPrey's Profile | # | ||||||
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I agree and was actually thinking this earlier. Unless someone is derailing GD I don’t see the point in banning someone because of one post that has no overall effect on the thread or forum.
It’s also kind of a bummer how people get accused of trolling in GD whenever their post isn’t really polite/nice. People can be posting seriously and still not be nice…
I realize an all or nothing rule is easier to enforce, but it isn’t always fair for someone to lose visits/play time because of technical rule breaking/silly post in GD.
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 3:08PM | View elenaratelimit's Profile | # | ||||||
bump because not enough people have agreed with me |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 3:51PM | View FAIL's Profile | # | ||||||
Signed, obviously. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 3:57PM | View SG94's Profile | # | ||||||
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To be explaining— sorry, thinking about HappyFunKitty.
FAIL, please explain how your POV is consistent with this CZ Twitter entry? |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:00PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
FAIL’s POV is like superconsistent with this one thoughLog in to see images!
And to get all serious hows a little joke from time to time “being an bumhole”? |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:09PM | View Summergirl_94's Profile | # | ||||||
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I agree with this thread, but I think people should also take some responsibility for their posts. Even if the rules in Game Discussion are overly strict, you should still take that into consideration before posting something that might potentially get you banned. I can sympathize with people for getting banned over stupid/funny/trollish posts, but it’s still their fault for posting it in the first place. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:10PM | View Endedrural's Profile | # | ||||||
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Summergirl_94 Posted:
It’s not, and many little jokes are left completely untouched.
The post which FAIL specifically links to is in a thread about the history of Forumwarz which contains tidbits about how Forumwarz the site has changed over time. The post itself does nothing to contribute to the site’s significant history and all it does is insult a user.
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:17PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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BirdofPrey Posted:
rping in a non-roleplaying forum requesting ban |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:43PM | View Agent_Orange's Profile | # | ||||||
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FAIL Posted:
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:47PM | ****tlebricks | # | ||||||
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It was a poor example of a “funny post in GD”, and I disagree with your main point. We already have half a dozen forums where you can blank line spam and do whatever the hell you want, and Game Discussion is not one of them. If you don’t like serious discussion, don’t post in GD. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 4:52PM | View Nillo's Profile | # | ||||||
MC Banhammer Posted:
I almost didn’t link to that post because I didn’t want it to be about Leechbait, that was just a recent example of a post that I thought was harmless.
But since you mentioned it, IMO things that happen in flamebate are just as notable fwz happenings as things that happen in dom, or klan changes, and things like that. I think when the creator of the game says you are being bumhurt and leave the site, it is a pretty notable thing to write about…
Anyway, I guess I don’t have a very valid argument I just think too many people take the internet seriously when they shouldn’t. I wouldn’t give a **** if someone posted something calling me bumhurt, or changed my avatar, or posted blankline spam, or trolled any of my threads so I don’t think other people should care either. But they do, so I guess **** me. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 5:04PM | View FAIL's Profile | # | ||||||
I think Game Discussion is fine as it is. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 6:13PM | View maxvance's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nillo Posted:
it’s not that we (i) want to blank line spam, post gay porn, and completely turn game disscussion into a trollhole where we flame the **** out of each other, i just hate having to change my personality ever time i enter game disscussion
let me give you an example. when i disagree with someone, i might tend to use something like sarcasm, or exaggerated hypotheticals, and the like to break down someone’s argument. now, if someone gets bumhurt because i get sbumy at them in game disscussion, then maybe they weren’t entirely truthful when they said “I am not easily offended”. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 7:07PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 7:12PM | View 1338h4x's Profile | # | ||||||
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If not allowing mild/funny trolling, we should at least allow allcaps posts. Banning on the count of those is just ridiculous. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 7:27PM | View TeeKayEff's Profile | # | ||||||
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Honestly, I think where the angst comes from is that known trolls tend to be viewed a bit more harshly while posting in GD. This isn’t mod fault or rule fault, it’s just that having earned a rep for being a naughtypants, everyone is more likely to point the troll finger than they are at some random person who might very well be underhandedly trolling.
It’s a fine line, and any level of sarcasm is often looked at as trolling. It is extremely hard to point out that someone is being an oblivious moron in GD without worrying about being looked as as trolling GD.
That said, I’d rather have it this way. GD needs the rules. There needs to be a place that is geared toward honest straight forward game discussion. If getting that on a site that encourages trolling means GD is a vast land of unfunny, literal posts so be it. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 7:41PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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I don’t know who or what FAIL is referring to but I agree that just because someone isn’t saying something nice or is saying something contrary does not auctomatically mean they are trolling. Trolling is specific actions done with the intent to incite a negative response and derail the thread. You can be a total **** or bumhole while being on topic and not derailing the thread. If saying something that might be a bit mean but on topic is banworthy then maybe it should be renamed happy fun zone no meaniez allowed or something.
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 8:21PM | bummoppet | # | ||||||
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However, considering that this forum is for serious straightforward discussion of the actual game, personal attacks of any kind don’t really belong here. I mean, it’s not like there’s not somewhere else to engage in those. If that results in this forum being boring, so be it. There’s plenty of non-boring forums here if that sort of thing is your cup of beverage. |
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Posted On: 11/03/2008 9:16PM | View Possibly a Cabba...'s Profile | # | ||||||