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Community discussion: Clbum balance suggestionsCheaters aren’t factored into clbum balance; that would be stupid.
Also, unless CZ changed it so that dolphin works on the boss thread, it’s not possible for any clbum but Emokid to deal sufficient damage to kill the boss. This can be proven mathematically. Since only the Emokid can survive a hit from the boss, any other clbum needs to kill with their first strike. With Political Flamebait (350 base damage) you would need a damage multiplier of x28.57. That works out to an offense of 363, which is not currently achievable for any clbum. (view post) |
02/28/2009 | |
Community discussion: Clbum balance suggestionsSheepshifter Posted:
According to fact, it didn’t happen: http://www.forumwarz.com/leaderboard/speedrun/52 (view post) |
02/28/2009 | |
Community discussion: Clbum balance suggestionsTHAT thread was asking if the imbalance was actually a problem. THIS thread is saying “Of course it is, now what can we do about it?” (view post) |
02/28/2009 | |
Community discussion: Clbum balance suggestionsIf you’ve been paying attention, then you know that clbumes aren’t exactly balanced at the moment. In the end-game: * Trolls have the best base damage and defense, and so are far and beyond the most powerful clbum available. * Emokids have the highest peak damage output, and are the only clbum currently able to pwn Geronimo. * Hackers have the largest point boost. * Camwhores have modest damage and low stats. With the advent of Kyoubai glbumes have become “Not-Emokid” clbum equipment instead of Camwhore clbum equipment, throwing the clbum balance into chaos.
Hackers and Emokids seem to be reasonably balanced at the moment, and I, personally, feel that Trolls and Camwhores should be brought in-line with those two.
Towards that end, I propose the following changes:
Hacker: 1: Make starter kit provide Egomania instead of Ego. This makes it equally useful at all stages of the game without ever making it overpowered.
Camwhore: 1: Add Ep2 shoes to increase off/def. This would provide a boost to the sorely lacking stat bonuses. 2: Have charisma boost healing abilities (But not healing items) the same way that offense boosts attack power. This would provide a reason for Camwhores to put points into the healing tree, instead of just going right for the pix. 3: Increase Fetish Pics base damage to 250, increase Hand Bra base damage to 225. 4: Optionally, reduce cooldown on It’s Playtime! to 1 round.
Emokid: 1: Reduce defense bonus on tattoos and piercings, replace with ego or egomania. Effective Emokid builds require that several points be put into egomania, but do not always require points in defense. Due to the lack of egomania boosting items, this would allow Emokids to be much more flexible with their UP allocation. 2: Allow Up-Suck to be used on any forum. This would allow Emokids to rapidly drop their ego at the start of a forum, resulting in less of a grind before they reach peak damage.
Trolls: 1: Reduce base damage for Political Flamebait to 215. Reduce base damage for Shock Sites to 200. Reduce damage range for Post Personal Information from 150-180 to 130-160. This is to offset the high defense and low cooldown.
Does anybody have an opinion on these changes? (Yes, I know Camwhore sees the most benefit from these, but what did you honestly expect?) Voice your opinions!
Edit: Added Emokid suggestion 2. (view post) |
02/28/2009 | |
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Store Price Changes?zagerblag Posted:
Camwhores do, but the change I was opposing was the reduced selling prices. (view post) |
02/26/2009 |
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Clbum Balance at the Level Cap: How much do we really care?The Wandering Hypocrite Posted: Because giving somebody Ego gives them a fixed amount, while giving them Egomania gives them a bonus that’s proportional to how many upgrade points they spent on boosting their ego. (view post) |
02/26/2009 |
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Clbum Balance at the Level Cap: How much do we really care?Check that. Shoes need to provide a bunch of frugality points as well as the off/def boosts, as the new frugality system is pretty harsh on camwhores. (view post) |
02/26/2009 |
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Store Price Changes?They mucked around with the selling cap as well. At 22 frugality Venuses aren’t even worth 40k.
That’s particularly hard on us camwhores, since we’re the only clbum that needs to buy Ego restoratives at level 35 and they took a large chunk out of our profit margins to begin with. Having to take points out of our already low off/def stats to boost frugality makes us even less effective. (view post) |
02/26/2009 |
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Clbum Balance at the Level Cap: How much do we really care?It’s somewhere around there. If I max-out my cha with items (It’s 66 now in my CC/ESFE build, for refference) and hit the top 4 cred-giving forums then don’t get noticeably more from deliveries than if I intentionally tank my cha down to about 25. The luck cap seems to be closer to 50ish, but THAT also affects .moar drops. :/
Of course, I could also hit the apparent delivery limit by pwning crappier forums. I think things are just capped low all around.
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Balance improvements:
Hacker: 1: Make starter kit provide Egomania instead of Ego.
Camwhore: 1: Add Ep2 shoes to increase off/def. 2: Have charisma boost healing abilities (But not items) the same way that offense boosts attack power. 3: Reduce cooldown on It’s Playtime! to 1 round. 4: Increase Fetish Pics base damage to 250, increase Hand Bra base damage to 225.
Emokid: 1: Reduce defense bonus on tattoos and piercings, replace with ego or egomania.
Trolls: 1: Reduce base damage for Political Flamebait to 215. Reduce base damage for Shock Sites to 200. Reduce damage range for Post Personal Information from 150-180 to 130-160.
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Anybody have any opinions on these proposed changes? (view post) |
02/25/2009 |
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Clbum Balance at the Level Cap: How much do we really care?KindFearlessLeader Posted:
You can’t upgrade cha. Even if you COULD, the cha cap seems to be around 20 cha. Since EVERY clbum can get +20cha for rollover with a few common and cheap .moar files, and cha has absolutely zero effect on combat, it’s a total non-issue.
KindFearlessLeader Posted:
Charisma can’t be upgraded, and is currently pretty much useless. Also, your logic kinda presumes that people WANT the stat they’re given. Emokids actually complain about the defense their equipment gives, since it makes them takes them longer to get to full strength. Even if you COULD put points into it, I wouldn’t bother.
Anyway, luck is 1 point per point, so by your math the camwhore EQ and starter packs would give 75 upgrade points worth of stats.
Stats aren’t the only factor here, but yea, like I said, underpowered. (view post) |
02/24/2009 |
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Clbum Balance at the Level Cap: How much do we really care?Optimal clbum equipment: Red Strap-Ons™ * Max Sexiness +75 * Offense +5 * Defense +5 * Luck +5 Professor Tightly’s Old-Fashioned™ Corset * Max Sexiness +250 * Charisma +7 * Luck +7 * Defense +7 Glbumes are no longer relevant as they are actually cheaper to buy at auction than the store for a person of average frugality. Starter pack: Who’s That ****?™ Starter Pack * Charisma +5 * Offense +1
Total bonus: +9 offense/+12 defense.
Compare this to Trolls: Tumorous Kidney * Max Douchebaggery: 600 * Offense: 10 * Defense: 35 You Little ****™! Starter Pack * Defense +8
Total bonus: +10/+67
Trolls have insanely high base damage, and the low offense granted by their Eq doesn’t make a lot of difference once you factor in .moar files. The high defense just means that they can put fewer points into egomania than other clbumes, and don’t need to spend as much time healing.
Emokids: Lobe Stretching * Max Tears +325 * Offense +8 * Defense +8 Nautical Star * Max Tears +225 * Offense +5 * Defense +5 First Cut is the Deepest™ Starter Pack * Charisma +1 * Offense +4 * Defense +3
Total bonus: +29/+25
Emokids start off with mediocre DPR, but their damage bonus to damage quickly boosts their output. They are the only clbum that can’t wear glbumes, but if they could it would be enough to make them unquestionably the most powerful clbum.
Hackers: Beast0r High-Speed Cables (x4)
* Defense +15 * Offense +15 * Luck +10 Total bonus: +60/+60
Hackers can get enough PP from .moar files to make up for using x4 cables, and they don’t have to sacrifice much (if any) offense to do it. That gives them a serious stat advantage that more or less offsets their low base attack power.
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I’m pretty certain that I have close to the best equipment known to exist in the game, both for my clbum and in general, and I STILL can’t manage to kill a thread in CC or ESFE in less than three rounds (At least, not without leaving my HP so low that I get killed in 1-2 hits).
I think it’s safe to say that camwhores are pretty mediocre at this point; average base damage combined with the lowest stat boosts make for a weak contender. The fact that charisma is capped so harshly has made it so that they don’t even have the high income advantage they once did; worse still, they are the only main clbum that still needs to but ego restoratives, and the significant cut that makes into their profits and makes them the least profitable clbum! Camwhores need a buff. Maybe bringing their best attacks up from 225/200 to 250/225?
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The fix to hackers is to make their starter kit to give a bonus to egomania instead of to ego. That would make it useful at every stage of the game without ever being overpowered. (view post) |
02/24/2009 |
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The "special" quest.male reproductive organ Liquor Posted:
Signed. (view post) |
02/24/2009 |
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Help us seed word types for E-Peen, with the official @word_type buildr 1.0!I filled it out as best I could, although some of the answers are more than a little strange. For example, Pope Sternodox is actually a pope… for certain values of “pope”... (view post) |
02/24/2009 |
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The "special" quest.See, that’s why it should have been made a “Special item” instead of “Junk”.
It doesn’t need to actually give any stats, it just needs to not be an auto-sell thing. The same thing goes for the receipt. (Of course, if equipable items NEED to have stats, then make the receipt and the plaque the same.)
It’s not too late to fix it. I’ve seen the admin interface, and it would take you all of thirty seconds to do. (view post) |
02/24/2009 |
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Easiest contest ever for 1bpAt 6:38pm est I rolled a 9 for the forum on random.org. /topics/9 is General RP. The next roll was 7, which means that this is the winning post -> http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view_post/465576 .
Congratulations, unsuspecting innocent!
SteamKnight was sent the following text with his BP:
“Congratulations on winning the contest! Be careful not to disqualify yourself by posting in this thread about it -> http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/27128-easiest-contest-ever-for-1bp”
Now I just need to wait for my peen. :awesome: (view post) |
02/15/2009 |
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Easiest contest ever for 1bpHow altruistic! You removed yourself from the running to give other people a better shot at the prize, thus setting a noble precedent that others should follow. I salute you. (view post) |
02/15/2009 |
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Easiest contest ever for 1bpSimplyTHEBEST Posted:(view post) |
02/15/2009 |
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Easiest contest ever for 1bpI will be giving 1bp away within the hour, give or take however long it takes me to remember that I’m running this contest (Which may be a few days, or weeks, or whenever. Just call it “some time in the future”Log in to see images!. The winner will be decided by picking a random forum, then a random thread on the first page of that forum and giving it to the last person to post in the thread. However, anybody who posts in THIS thread is ineligible.
If this thread inspires the kind of non-participation and apathy I’m looking for, then I may do another one in the future. Or not. Whichever. (view post) |
02/15/2009 |
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Spading deliveriesIt would kinda help if other people started providing information as well. It might be that level 35 forums don’t give **** for deliveries – bumuming that they count at all. It might be that Cha is capped low and Luck is capped high, etc…
More data is required, and I’m limited to 4 visits and one delivery per day. (view post) |
02/07/2009 |
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Spading deliveriesProduct Unit Cost Quantity Total Remote Control 10 1 10 Empty Gas Pump 101 3 303 Fish Head 33 2 66 Dishwashing Brush 2 1 2 Venus de Milo 40,500 2 81,000 Deed to Indian Burial Ground 2,025 2 4,050 Chinese Takeaway 1 2 2 Brolex Watch 40,196 1 40,196 McBuggy Anti-Anti Virus™ 202 2 404 The Italian 39,082 1 39,082 Anvil 27 1 27 Bicycle 337 3 1,011 Total: 166,153 (view post) |
02/06/2009 |