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ITT: NotJoePesci asks: What kind of music do wolves listen too?

Shii Posted:

Lol, now I know you’re all used to listening to bands that don’t have any talent, but try to broaden your horizons for a moment. You’ll be a better person.

Out, the big Loaf takes offense to that.

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Samildanach Posted:

But Who would make that when it has the beneficial side-effect of logging out those too foolish to get around it?

Fixed.

Now, ask yourself this question, then answer.

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zagerblag Posted:

What signature? Since when do I have a signature?

Sorry, not a signature, the picture I quoted (that you posted).

Right-clicking it, and then clicking “Open picture in new tab” logged me out.

Y’know what I’m talking about? The picture that you then removed from your post?

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It’s probably a case of just, no one in his bracket played Dom, rather than him being in a bracket by himself.

Why isn't the clearest rule on Flamebate ever enforced?

Samildanach Posted:

In normal society, when we’re talking about people’s actual lives and rights, I’m generally in favor of limitation on executive power. In an online game’s trolling RP forums… less so.

In normal society, we also have “Obstruction of Justice”.

Why isn't the clearest rule on Flamebate ever enforced?

Samildanach Posted:

There’s a line. Most people know when they’ve crossed it – they just pretend otherwise for CYA and to rile up support.

It’s defined by common sense, unfortunately, which is lost on a lot of people (and I’m not excluding moderators here). All rules require adjudication, and the wasted effort on defining every boundary case will just turn out to be useless as people press new boundary cases.

CASE A) Mods spend many meetings coming up with an exhaustive list of defining characteristics for a “shock image.” For lulz, ITROLLU4202010 posts an image that is clearly a shock pic, but evades those characteristics. Mods get yelled at for banning ITROLLU4202010, are accused of partisan modding, get internet lawyers up their bumholes pointing out how it “broke no rules” and have to update the list.

CASE B) Mods say “Don’t ****ing post shock images.” For lulz, ITROLLU4202010 posts an image that is clearly a shock pic. Mods get yelled at for banning ITROLLU4202010, are accused of partisan modding, get internet lawyers up their bumholes pointing out how there is no clear definition of a “shock pic”, mods sigh and move on.

One of these requires a mbumive investment of time and effort in a distasteful activity, and both yield roughly the same result in practice. Is it any surprise that the latter is preferable?

Fine. How about, examples of what a shock picture would consist of? How about there’s a clause such as “Regardless of the above definitions, if you have posted an obvious shock picture, we will ban you”. That’s not creating a solid line, it’s creating a very foggy one, people have a sense of when they’re pushing it, and it’s still the moderators complete choice.

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MC Banhammer Posted:

Clearly this is an issue of interest to the community, and I though that yesterday I made it clear that we were talking about it. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough.

Expect some changes. Just not super-quick.

Okay, awaiting changes.

Why isn't the clearest rule on Flamebate ever enforced?

Samildanach Posted:

Except that people don’t “point out flaws” in threads like this. They make a big stink to try to make a Point, without the intent to actually improve anything. It’s not “this is inconsistent and something should be done, it’s “Someone is doing something I don’t like, and therefore other people should be made to suffer as well.”

I’m all for consistency, and I think the rules could use a tweak. At the same time, FWZ has some of the craziest base bumumptions I’ve ever heard, and a surprising number of people who like to push the envelope just as far as they possibly can while still having some basis for their friends to baw about them getting banned.

The waters just get muddied by all these people reaching in different directions to make their Point and stirring up **** about it. It doesn’t strike me as a good way to accomplish anything besides getting attention.

Have you seem this thread?

What are your views on bootlegging?

And to continue on the varied rants of earlier in this thread; does anyone know who Jonathan Coulton is?

People who say that becoming big without a record company, will get a bit of a shock.