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Unintelligen-
cer

Avatar: Unintelligencer's Avatar
5

Level 31 Troll

“Permafail”

I beat Coral springs with only 4 consumables at level 9- way less than my camwhore & emo alts used at level 10.

Or at least less than I remember using.

PartyHard

Avatar: Deformed Child
4

[Spacebattles]

Level 33 Troll

“Permafail”

Unintelligencer Posted:

I beat Coral springs with only 4 consumables at level 9- way less than my camwhore & emo alts used at level 10.

Or at least less than I remember using.

Same with my Troll, I attacked with Standerd Comp, that mouse you get from the male reproductive organshot guy, and a baby seal skin coat at lv 10 and I used like 3 of those +100egos and 2 +50Douchebaggery

PartyHard edited this message on 04/14/2008 8:47PM

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

Unintelligencer Posted:

Who said that Trolls can’t speedrun?

Notice all these runs were only at level 9:

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Yeah, I’m sure speeding the harder forums will be harder until we get a better attack or two, but I don’t see where trolls need a lot of buffing. We’re slow but can beat all the forums with a minimum of equipment and consumables.

Four bar forums are also in scoop range, after that it ends for us.

Unintelligen-
cer

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5

Level 31 Troll

“Permafail”

I agree- I just got scoops in 3- 4 bar forums, and South Carolina. It’s not that hard. I think once the level caps are removed and we get a better attack or two, then the 6-bar forums will be accessible also. I just disagree with the premise of this thread that trolls are severely disadvantaged compared to the other clbumes. We’re just not capable of speedrunning the hardest forums.

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

Of course Trolls are at a disadvantage, look at our main stat, Defense. Yay, a meager 1% damage-reduction per point spent and 1.5% chance to dodge. Relying on throwing dice is something I’d rather leave to my Pen&Paper-pals, not when deciding if my Troll can or cannot pwn a 6 bar forum with 5 Smileprin XR or 7, and lose 10 or 20% durability.

People would surely be ****ed if Offense only gave a 1% attack damage increase per point and 1.5% to critically strike.

Arktor

Avatar: Schoolgirl Uniform
24

[Smooth Town Rebels]

Level 10 Camwhore

Medal Ninja

Healbot Posted:

Of course Trolls are at a disadvantage, look at our main stat, Defense. Yay, a meager 1% damage-reduction per point spent and 1.5% chance to dodge. Relying on throwing dice is something I’d rather leave to my Pen&Paper-pals, not when deciding if my Troll can or cannot pwn a 6 bar forum with 5 Smileprin XR or 7, and lose 10 or 20% durability.

People would surely be ****ed if Offense only gave a 1% attack damage increase per point and 1.5% to critically strike.

Change that to “1.5% to hit” and your comparison is more accurate. At least a non-critical strike (in most games, at least) still deals damage.

Fwd Re Re Posted:

nerf trolls

buff reres
i agre

and y the hel r u guyz whining, i had 2 use 19 smileprin xrs to beat coral springs
stfu plz
Haley Wants Your Pants Snake edited this message on 04/15/2008 1:58PM

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

Arktor Posted:

Change that to “1.5% to hit” and your comparison is more accurate. At least a non-critical strike (in most games, at least) still deals damage.

No, the analogy works perfectly with critical strikes, because with that kind of Offense function everyone would be forced to roll dice and desperately hope to pwn a thread before the backlash. Which is no fun.

WetSocket

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8

Level 10 Emo Kid

“Gloomy Gus”

The first troll I see with a max offense build and still can’t run anything I will believe this, until then max defense build trolls can stop whining. And use the right equipment obviously.

Bigguyinblack

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4

[Mock TSB]

Level 10 Troll

i'm so lonely... i have no friends... plz help...

Defense sucks as do troll attacks. Maxing defense means pwning forums would take even longer and we would take more damage. I’m not convinced that a super high defense is worth the effort.

Starfang_42

Avatar: Red Green Flashing
2

[Random Insanity]

Level 30 Troll

The **** of the Trollhole

WetSocket Posted:

The first troll I see with a max offense build and still can’t run anything I will believe this, until then max defense build trolls can stop whining. And use the right equipment obviously.


I tried a max offense build. It sucked horribly. I literally had to spend a week pwning headbangers just to get the flezz for a haxlrose

WetSocket

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8

Level 10 Emo Kid

“Gloomy Gus”

Starfang_42 Posted:

I tried a max offense build. It sucked horribly. I literally had to spend a week pwning headbangers just to get the flezz for a haxlrose


Then you did something wrong. Max offense works for all clbumes, as it increases the speed at which you beat forums.

Paraone

Avatar: Paraone's Avatar
7

[egg]

Level 10 Troll

i am a heron. i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak.

WetSocket Posted:

Then you did something wrong. Max offense works for all clbumes, as it increases the speed at which you beat forums.

To be fair, it works better for some clbumes than others. You have to think of the difference in attacks that the clbumes have.

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

WetSocket Posted:

Then you did something wrong. Max offense works for all clbumes, as it increases the speed at which you beat forums.

Going max Offense does work, albeit with smaller returns for Trolls. Our abilities lack the punch of Cam Whores, the scalability of Emo Kids and our base stat (sitting at 16 Defense right now without having spent a single point into it) could very well be considered useless.

I will test my current build, judging by the numbers there is virtually no difference between 16 and 21 Defense.

Bigguyinblack

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4

[Mock TSB]

Level 10 Troll

i'm so lonely... i have no friends... plz help...

An IDC conversation. Make of it what you will.

Bigguyinblack: FYI Trolls hate Memebusters.

6:16PM

Yaltus: ok, good to know

6:16PM

mary misanthrope: But anyway thank you for humoring me

6:16PM

Bigguyinblack: If you want max cred from it pack a lunch.

6:16PM

mary misanthrope: Evil Trout

6:17PM

mary misanthrope: I try not to ask you obnoxious questions about the site

6:17PM

mary misanthrope: Heh

6:17PM

Vuron: Bigguyinblack: even with ‘roids?

6:17PM

Yaltus: I’m still kinda figuring this out, have only been playing for about 2 weeks

6:17PM

Evil Trout: anyone here know anything about editing/creating fonts

6:17PM

Bigguyinblack: I don’t use roids, Duration is too low to matter and you can’t buy 4 a day.

6:17PM

mary misanthrope: Bigguyinblack: I couldn’t believe how hard memebusters was for trolls, it was such a breeze for me on this character

6:17PM

mary misanthrope: And emus aren’t even that strong

6:18PM

Bigguyinblack: Yea my Camwhore loves it.

6:18PM

mary misanthrope: I played it here first, then tried it with my troll and almost died

6:18PM

Vuron: i think emos can be really strong

6:18PM

Vuron: most people just don’t build them right

6:18PM

mary misanthrope: True, Vuron

6:18PM

mary misanthrope: I actually prefer this character to my camwhore.

6:19PM

mary misanthrope: Despite the fact that I can’t get so many lemon scoops

6:19PM

Evil Trout: emos used to be overpowered, we nerfed them a lot

6:19PM

Evil Trout: emo is actually my favorite clbum to play

6:19PM

Evil Trout: even though I’m a troll

6:19PM

Vuron: mine too

6:19PM

mary misanthrope: Me too

6:19PM

Bigguyinblack: Emo’s excel at speedrunning, Camwhores excel at harder forums due to healing ability, Trolls… Just suck.

6:19PM

Vuron: the 1 turn cooldown on the best ability is really nice

6:19PM

mary misanthrope: I still troll on this character sometimes, can’t be helped hehe

6:20PM

mary misanthrope: Yeah but trolls have that too, their best ability just sucks

6:20PM

mary misanthrope: Haha

6:20PM

Vuron: emo damage bonus ftw

6:20PM

mary misanthrope: Comparatively

6:20PM

Yaltus: pump me up is pretty crazy

6:20PM

mary misanthrope: I wish pump me up lasted longer

6:21PM

Bigguyinblack: When I first made a Camwhore the whole game felt like I had pushed a big red “Easy bumon:.

6:21PM

mary misanthrope: For the bonus damage

6:21PM

Vuron: i’m trying to keep my emo consistenly in the 5 smileprin per PP run

6:21PM

Yaltus: pump me up + poetry was pretty shocking the first time I did that

6:21PM

mary misanthrope: Yeah, I think I prefer emus because they’re the most balanced

6:21PM

Bigguyinblack: Yaltus: Yea 280+ damage is sweet.

6:21PM

mary misanthrope: Not too easy to play, but not nearly as difficult as a troll

6:22PM

Vuron: i loath playing my troll alt

6:22PM

Vuron: it’s such a grind

6:23PM

Vuron: i’m trying an all offense build on a troll and it just sucks

6:23PM

Bigguyinblack: Evil Trout you should consider looking into how often people go idle or buy cheats as a Troll compared to the other 2 clbumes.

6:23PM

Bigguyinblack: I bet it’s pretty high.

6:23PM

mary misanthrope: I’m excited to see what the new clbumes will be in E2.

6:23PM

mary misanthrope: Oh yeah, that was my first build as a troll, Vuron

6:24PM

mary misanthrope: Then I put a lot more in defense and died a lot less, but it’s still too tedious to play as a troll

6:24PM

Natalie: Evil Trout: An ex of mine made me a font from my handwriting for Valentine’s Day once, but that’s all I know about it.

6:24PM

Bigguyinblack: Vuron: I made a new Troll that concentrats on Defense. He’s crippled. Middle ground is the only viable option.

6:24PM

Evil Trout left.

Arktor

Avatar: Schoolgirl Uniform
24

[Smooth Town Rebels]

Level 10 Camwhore

Medal Ninja

Paraone Posted:

To be fair, it works better for some clbumes than others. You have to think of the difference in attacks that the clbumes have.

To be fair, that’s absurd. It has the exact same %increase for every clbum.

Bigguy: Just because you can’t beat Memebusters doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with trolls.

Arktor edited this message on 04/22/2008 6:54PM

Bigguyinblack

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4

[Mock TSB]

Level 10 Troll

i'm so lonely... i have no friends... plz help...

If you have an ability that adds +20% to damage and you do 60 damage you will do 12 extra damage. If you only deal 40 damage you will only deal 8 extra damage. Emo’s have a % damage on top of offence and Camwhores have stronger attacks. Offense does less for trolls because our base damage is lower. And I pwn Memebusters just fine, But it takes 3x as long as my Camwhore.

Arktor

Avatar: Schoolgirl Uniform
24

[Smooth Town Rebels]

Level 10 Camwhore

Medal Ninja

Bigguyinblack Posted:

If you have an ability that adds +20% to damage and you do 60 damage you will do 12 extra damage. If you only deal 40 damage you will only deal 8 extra damage. Emo’s have a % damage on top of offence and Camwhores have stronger attacks. Offense does less for trolls because our base damage is lower. And I pwn Memebusters just fine, But it takes 3x as long as my Camwhore.

Yes, that’s how percentages work. You might also notice that on a forum that takes 200 seconds to beat, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 167 seconds, or 23 less seconds. If it takes you 400 seconds, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 334, or 46 less seconds.

Clearly offense is overpowered for trolls.

Marcos El Ma-
lo

Avatar: Marcos El Malo's Avatar

Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

Arktor Posted:

Yes, that’s how percentages work. You might also notice that on a forum that takes 200 seconds to beat, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 167 seconds, or 23 less seconds. If it takes you 400 seconds, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 334, or 46 less seconds.

Clearly offense is overpowered for trolls.

I’m not sure how your math is relevant to BG’s point or how it supports your conclusion that troll offense is too powerful compared to the other main clbumes. Spell it out for me. I’m dumb.

Marcos El Malo edited this message on 04/22/2008 7:18PM

Arktor

Avatar: Schoolgirl Uniform
24

[Smooth Town Rebels]

Level 10 Camwhore

Medal Ninja

Marcos El Malo Posted:

I’m not sure how your math is relevant to BG’s point or how it supports your conclusion that troll offense is too powerful compared to the other main clbumes. Spell it out for me. I’m dumb.

Well, since trolls take longer to kill forums, having higher offense results in it taking much less time to pwn forums than you’d get from the same amount of offense on a non-troll.

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