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What’s the highest damage that can be reached now? I know it’s impossible to one-hit Geronimo boss thread, but I’m wondering if a fully-specced Emo with the best moar files can top 5,000 damage when they have low health.
Right now I can hit for 4846 using Political Flamebait after Fap and Racial Tension, that seems to be about the max for Trolls. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 10:47AM | doctormale reproductive organtor | # | ||||||
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Everybody hurts = 230 base damage Recipe for disaster = 200 base damage
430 total base damage = x23.25348837209302 attack damage multiplier
That means it would take an average +2225.35% attack damage bonus to pwn Geronimo
Without the ego boost, that would be 291 points in offense. I’ll work out the math for a reasonable ego-boost/offense combo later today. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:10AM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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Ok, I’m tired, no pointing out the obvious mistakes I made. (Recipe is not an ego-boosted skill, for one)
However, I think this equation is wrong: Thewiki Posted:
Because O, according to the context Thewiki Posted:
...doesn’t make any sense. By that math, having 1000ego, LADing to 20ego, and then attacking would multiply your damage bonus by 75. If you had a damage bonus of 766.66% (Offense of 101), then that would result in a net damage bonus of 57,500%, for a total damage of 13,248,000 from “Everybody Hurts”.
Perhaps I’m just too ****ed-up to think today, but something doesn’t seem at all right about that. SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 11:25AM |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:24AM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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SimplyTHEBEST Posted:
It would multiply damage by 75 or .75?
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:27AM | View Aurum's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wouldn’t multiplying something by .75 reduce it’s damage to 3/4? |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:29AM | View Deific Blunder's Profile | # | ||||||
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On my Emo, I’m able to hit geronimo up to 5k – 7.2kish while attacking with 10ish ego with Everybody Hurts, then Life after Death saveing me bringing me to 20ish, so I can hit with Qouth the Raven from around 1025 ego. He has like 105 offense(Currently speced luck for HoFF’s Pink Floyd so can’t check) Note, he still doesnt have the best .moar files. I will check when I can haxl again. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:33AM | View SIG-ENABLING-MOC...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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XSS Code Posted:
Damn, you can already hit for 7.2k? With the top moar files, it may actually be possible for an emo with 1% health remaining to hit for 9999 then.
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:37AM | doctormale reproductive organtor | # | ||||||
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I could try to work out the equation with a few pieces of accurate data, but “5k-7.2k” isn’t very precise or accurate.
Also, I need to know what your max ego is for your current ego to mean anything, since we DO know that it’s a function of how much ego you’re missing.
doctormale reproductive organtor Posted:
I think he means total. SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 11:40AM |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:39AM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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SimplyTHEBEST Posted:
Oh, from both attacks? Still, an emo might be able to 2-hit the thread at max offense. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:41AM | doctormale reproductive organtor | # | ||||||
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SimplyTHEBEST Posted: I belive he can haxl in a couple days so not sure if it will still be relavent then.
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:42AM | View SIG-ENABLING-MOC...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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doctormale reproductive organtor Posted:
And yeah, from two attacks. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:44AM | View SIG-ENABLING-MOC...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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To be honest, ANY emokid data I can gather will help with figuring out the actual equation. For all I know ET changed the equation to OLog(X) for Ep2. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:46AM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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With an emo and the darkside .moar file (bumuming you have a decent set of other moar files) it should be possible to pwn geronimo again. Of course that would likely result in ET pushing the pwnage on the boss thread up even higher but at least you could say you’ve beaten geronimo. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:47AM | View Vuron's Profile | # | ||||||
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Whew tripple post because I’m to lazy to edit. Posting on my emo.
But yeah, I have no where near the best files.
Current .moar file list. Dogreat timesent: more random keystrokes.dtbs 7 offense Music: Thereminor Threat – I Don’t Wanna Touch It.noiz 5 offense Picture: meeee278.gawk 4 offense And I don’t even have a program file.
Hopefuly with pink floyd, and a good program file I can get 140ish offense. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:48AM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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SimplyTHEBEST Posted:
When I can haxl, we can get together on IDC or a IRC channel and I can work with you on it. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:50AM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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The only thing that matters here is stats and damage. EQ is irrelevent. If you can tell me your Offense, max ego, current ego, and damage with an attack, then that’s the best data I could hope for outside of controlled conditions.
Also: This thread is now about the ego damage boost equation. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 11:52AM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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Edit: 1928 at max ego. I did 2314 with Everybody Hurts at 170 ego out of 215 97 offense.
I did 3027 with Everybody Hurts at 86 ego.
I did 3463 with Everybody Hurts at 35 ego.
I did 3555 dmg with Everybody Hurts at 24 ego.
As low as I could go since I’m doing this on geronimo. CrinkzPipe edited this message on 12/09/2008 12:02PM |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 12:01PM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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Crinkz Posted:
My Emo has 2100 Ego and did 3945 damage with everybody hurts when he had 27 ego left. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 12:12PM | View Nicco's Profile | # | ||||||
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Everybody Hurts: 230 damage. 97 offense: +744% damage, 844% damage total.
Crinkz Posted:
838% damage, putting it within the margin of error for the offense boost.
Crinkz Posted: 79% health, 1006% damage – 100% = +906% damage bonus
906/7.66=118 effective offense 118/97=122% boost from ego
Crinkz Posted: 40% health, 1316% damage – 100% = +1216% damage bonus
1216/7.66=159 effective offense 159/97=164% boost from ego
Crinkz Posted: 16% health, 1506% damage – 100% = +1406% damage bonus
1406/7.66=184 effective offense 184/97=190% boost from ego
Crinkz Posted: 11% health, 1546% damage – 100% = +1446% damage bonus
1446/7.66=189 effective offense 189/97=195% boost from ego
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79% ego = 122% boost 40% ego = 164% boost 16% ego = 190% boost 11% ego = 195% boost
The margin of error being what it is, it looks like the emokid bonus is O*(1+MissingEgo%), which means that you can never get (let alone exceed) more than 2x damage out of your ego.
Raven: 175 Hurts: 230 Total: 405 9,999/405 = 2469%
bumuming the 2x bonus from 0% health: 1134% damage bonus. 1134%/7.66%=148 offense.
bumuming an average ego of 5% (20ego out of 1000): 1167% damage bonus. 1167%/7.66%=153 offense.
Things seem to work out OK-ish, so we have a working model. |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 12:42PM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nicco Posted:
Is your offense around 113, give or take a few points?
Edit: Also, I updated the wiki. Even if I’m wrong, the numbers are STILL far less inaccurate than what was there before. SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 1:27PM |
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Posted On: 12/09/2008 12:44PM | View SimplyTHEBEST's Profile | # | ||||||