Celerysteve Posted:

I agree with the first sentence. However, pacifist politics didn’t save Europe from certain tyranny twice. Pacifist politics doesn’t keep unseen wolves from the gates while you sleep in the naive confides of a warm bed. Pacifist politics doesn’t render aid and food and fight foreign oppressors all over the globe (and do so for the most part for genuinely thankful people who the media doesn’t show you because it’s not controversial enough to get good television ratings).

Pacifist politics says screw everyone else, let’s bend over with a kick me sign on and hope it all turns out ok. We leave in a dog-eat-dog world with two driving forces: money and power by force. No amount of idealistic misconceptions are going to prove that otherwise. You want peace? Well, there’s some very bad, very mean men out there with things that go boom who don’t want you to have that peace – pacifist politics doesn’t make them go away – meaner, badder, and boomier does.

Happy Veteran’s Day, Forumwarz.

Unfortunate but true. Happy Veterans Day.