To address just itembuildr for now, here’s what I think led us to this point. First off JB, you may feel you’re repeating yourself by saying “be patient, we’re working on it” in multiple places, but it does help ease concerns. I got the feeling, and maybe others did too, that the site was locked in to the -5 voting concept, which has been around for quite awhile now, and I would have liked hearing that there’s a good chance it will change. Also, something goofy but interesting – forumbuildr still has “beta” in the title while itembuildr doesn’t. While I know that it’s tongue in cheek on forumbuildr, itembuildr really should be considered in a “beta” stage at this point. Chocolate scoops were probably added too soon, and you should be willing to play around with how it works and possibly not release every item into play, because it’s really an unfinished product. Finally, one thing that makes itembuildr even more frustrating to those who don’t think it works – if you come up with a great forum idea and it gets downvoted, you can resubmit it the next week or even the same week. When your itembuildr item gets blasted right away, it feels more like that idea is lost for good, even though you could save it for the next time that type of item comes around.