Until people stop leeching this is going to be how it is. We’re going to restrict things and gauge the effect. This is an iterative approach and we’re in a much better place then we were. If people can’t/don’t raid, we’ll adjust accordlingly.

By my math, bumuming activity every 3 days and if you’re at the end of a pistachio run (with 92 forums)...

Solo (this is a theoretical max and can only be achieved in 1 run as pistachio will drop with previous runs):

36 Lemon

40+42+44 Pistachio

72 Vanilla

= 234 scoops

Raiding:

144 Vanilla

You can in theory get solo vanilla inside a raid albeit not much (9 scoops currently)

In theory Pistachio is doable here too (40+42+44 Pistachio) but for argument sake, let’s not include it

Lemon is a lot harder to get in a raid

= 144 scoops

So I see what you mean about the lack of benefit towards raiding.

Let’s say for a second we doubled the Raid yield (2 scoops for every 12) that would give you 288 vanilla. So the benefit is 50 scoops over solo (plus Pistachio if you’re organized enough). And that’s 50 scoops that are (in my mind) easier to get than solo vanilla (miss 1 visit, you lose 8 scoops) or lemon. And raid earned scoops are consistent, whereas solo are not (because Pistachio shifts).

So… maybe double the raid reward is the answer.

That being said why wouldn’t people leech anyways?? The only solution that I see at this point is to nuke someone’s ability to get both types (solo vs raid vanilla).

Either you’d have to choose what type of vanilla you’re going to earn that week (and be put into an according bracket – like MCB has suggested previously) or we put a time limit on when you can earn which type (if you earn one type of vanilla you can’t earn another type for another 60 hours or something).

This is my two cents on balance as things currently stand.

Again, none of this is happening for Wednesday, I’m just ranting on what I feel might make things more balanced. In theory.