spacekadt Posted:

Honestly, without alts in the same raid, you’re still not going to get many (if any) raids. If the two largest klans in the game can’t pull together 13 distinct people on a reliable basis, it’s not worth raiding.

To hit a “break even” point on vanilla, you need 7 people in the raid with full visits. That’s not counting the loss of lemon and pistachio. Lemon alone is another 3 people with full visits, so now we’re up to 10 people required. Pistachio makes it even harder to break even.

Perfect solo = 72 vanilla, 36 lemon and let’s say mid streak for about 60 pistachio for a total of 168

Perfect raid with all 13 people = 145 vanilla

The benefit of raiding is what? I honestly see another week where the klans don’t raid and people try to go for solos.

We had 39 raids started this week. Not sure how many were successful, but with the changes this week raiding will be easier to keep track of (you’ll at least know how many forums you’ve pwned).

You aren’t guaranteed the Lemon scoops currently, and pistachio is only really beneficial every 3 weeks. If you plan your raiding there’s no reason you can’t get Pistachio while you raid. Lemon is a lot harder though.

Allowing alts back into Raids would just make the Leeching issue worse. Right now you can leech at the cost of 12 scoops. If alts were in your raid they’d just help with that. I’m not seeing why we should allow alts into raids. Get 13 people together, I’ve seen this happen many times. Would you rather we lower the number so you can get less people? Cause I’ll gladly do that.