scullyangel Posted:

It (raiding) should offer a decent benefit, but should not offer a benefit so overwhelming that every other scoop earning method is pointless.

I couldn’t agree more on this point, and that is my goal from all of this.

scullyangel Posted:

– Keep the 13 per raid cap with only those joined having an impact on the forums held count. There simply needs to be a hard cap on the number of raid scoops that can be earned. If there isn’t it creates the situation where no other scoop earning method matters.

What kind of cap would you suggest? Is 144 fair? That would be 2 times the potential max that you can get for soloing (72). I hate the idea of an arbitrary cap, but if this is the only solution to avoid all these other ridiculous rules, then I’m open to it. If there’s a cap then why should we have a limit at all? Why can’t we just let anyone join? The reason that I put all these rules in is to act as a cap, but if we just put a cap, then the rules aren’t really needed IMO.

scullyangel Posted:

– Keep it so that disabled characters cannot impact the forums. People shouldn’t be able to get around the limits by flinging on visits from characters not joined to a raid. On the flip side, characters that aren’t participating in Dom shouldn’t be able to interrupt raiding either. The limit forces choices and sacrifice and strategy. Those are all awesome things from a gaming perspective.

It’s basically like this today, except that noobs without scoops can pwn forums. So for now I’d likely leave this as is.

scullyangel Posted:

– Get rid of the 15 minute join window. I’ve raided in pretty much every klan that has raided. The main reason people who are interested don’t raid is because of schedule conflicts. After work traffic or whatever should not mean the player can’t join. That whole idea is just silly and I don’t see the point in it.

Yeah I’d have to agree with this.

scullyangel Posted:

– Allow alts to join without earning raid scoops. First alt to join earns klan vanilla scoops, any others do not. Yes, this means that people can feed a main, but when those characters sacrifice vanilla and most times pistachio, they are making a choice that those characters, one of their chosen 5, aren’t going to be medaling. If they don’t medal competitively they will not be in the upper brackets to help support klannies with crowd control – it is a fair trade off.

I don’t know if I agree with this. It’s not really a trade off because I can just do this with one alt one week and the other the next to medal both and I feel that doing this would keep them up in the top brackets. Maybe I’m wrong here. It just seems like too much trouble to allow alts and limit who gets what. I’m thinking we should leave it as is for now.

scullyangel Posted:

– Allow klan raiders to earn full value solo vanilla within a raid. This would help eliminate the idea that only those with alts can contribute effectively. It could mean that as few as 4 players without alts working together could benefit from a raid, while a full 13 would see a very decent return on their time investment. It would also bring some skill and decision making to the whole situation rather than having a “feed Denture chat” mentality that makes raiding monotonous.

Yeah I’d agree with this too. Hopefully it would also reduce people wanting to leech, since they could get their 72 solo vanilla scoop during a raid – it might even be easier to do so.

scullyangel Posted:

– Change the join raid to 2 times per week with no time restriction on when a character can join. Have the counter set during the Domination downtime each Wednesday, so people can’t work the system and sneak an extra raid in.

Yeah I think this makes sense as well.

scullyangel Posted:

Bumping allowable antifreeze to 15 or 20 per day. This would put those scoops at a max of 120 or 160 per week. BINGEBOT’s scaling antifreeze is a cool thought, but uncapping antifreeze is a bad idea. Flezz is a big enough problem as it is with the auction house opening the door to backhanded transfers. I don’t want to see Domination become a game of who got lucky with their .moar file drops or who got away with subtle flezz transfers.

It’s less uncapping and more just scaling how you earn. In theory you could sit there 24/7 and gamble and end up with a handful more scoops, but that time would be better spent coming up with ideas for Chocolate scoops IMO. I do kind of like the idea you mentioned further down about the Mobster backroom wheel of fortune. Only problem is I don’t know how much I like the idea of paying for scoops. I think it would have to give out significantly less scoops, since it takes no time investment (although arguably the flezz took you time to earn)

scullyangel Posted:

Stopping pistachio growth at 100 forums. I bumume Forumbuildr isn’t going to just shut down when we hit 100 forums, but continuing to add pistachio beyond 100 will shift Dom to being a pistachio is all that matters thing and that is as bad as having vanilla positioned as the only thing that matters.

This is likely what will happen.