Hobart Bliggity Posted:

Nope. I actually took the time to read through all of his posts, and not once did he offer up any backing to his claim. You can do the same. Or, if you somehow know what his backing is, please explain it to me, as it seems OJ has run away.

I believe he is trying to say that the universe is a backbone on top of which rules describing it operate, meaning that the universe must have been first. I’ve already tried to explain what OC is trying to say.