Adeptus Posted:

I may be in a raiding klan, but due to timezone differences and a stupid workload I’m primarily a solo player, and I make many, many more scoops total over all my alts with lemon, pistachio and solo vanilla than I would with a main character with lemon, pistachio and klan vanilla (and solo vanilla if I save my mains visits which is pretty standard), even if this change meant my alts made some klan vanilla too. This is because if you’re raiding, because of the dynamics of preparation and protecting against interference it’s usually difficult to work out pistachio runs on alt characters and fairly tough to get any lemon.

Err… that’s a terrible explaination. Lets go with some numbers, see if that makes it clearer

Option A: Solo

For an ideal solo vanilla run of 12 visits, you can get 72 vanilla, 36 lemon and a varying amount of pistachio. Let’s say about 50 ish if you’re roughly in the middle of a run. That’s 158 scoops. 10 (really very good) solo characters working as a team make 1580.

Option B: Raid

If there’s only 1 main not using his visits for solo purposes, with the rest made up of alts of other klannies helping out, they can make 96 klan vanilla, plus the solo player makes 158, giving a grand total of 1118 scoops from a team of 10.

The klan player will have 96 more scoops than his individual competitors, but the solo team makes 462 more scoops overall, and if more than a couple are in the same bracket as the klan player they will anhiliate him/her. Even if the raid characters make some lemon and pistachio scoops (they might get 15 total, each) that’s still a pretty steep hill to climb.

There’s a lot more to this, I know, especially if you get characters and klans with enough alts (and time!) to raid everyday and keep adding the same main into each raid, but that’s beyond my ability sort out. If anything, this is gonna make raids longer as you just have one main, 9 other player’s alts, raid to the limit, start a new raid with someone elses main, raid to the limit etc. etc. That’s really ****ing tedious and I doubt I’d be willing to participate.

How about we nerf solo vanilla back to 1 scoop like it used to be.. and we allow alts back into raids..

I still stand by the fact that raiding should be better than solo, but it shouldn’t keep solo players from playing. So some math…

Situation A – solo vanilla run

12 visits. Let’s bumume I get 2 lemon for each.. and sure, we’ll use your number 50 pistachio. If solo vanilla is nerfed back to 1 scoop I would get 9 vanilla scoops. 24 lemon. So total of 83 scoops. Mostly pistachio.

Situation B – klan raid

120 visits. Fair to bumume no lemon, but let’s say you’ll get 6 out of your 12 visits, because. We can use the same number for pistachio, cause it’s likely you can do both, so 50 pistachio. If you can get 109 vanilla, that’s 165 scoops. So you’d get double for doing a raid.

That looks pretty good on paper to me. We want to adjust it? Make solo vanilla worth 2 instead of 1.. or 3 instead of 1…

Again, I’m just saying there are options when it comes to vanilla.

Maybe I’m missing something here.. am I?