well you can’t expect the time devoted separately into speeding/pistachio looping alts to apply in a manor that would promote any one of the alts to be more competitive against a raider — unless you are raiding with them as you do the speed + loops, in which case you are well entitled to the vanilla you get from such time and effort.

its sort of parallel to what meeeee was saying about how a clan full of solo vanilla players would do fine if they had enough numbers in a bracket with a raider.

essentially its a different issue because there is no mechanism to earn community lemons or pistachio