Pickled male reproductive organbum Posted:

yeah, likely. when 12/12/12 worked it really looked like others were going to get into it, because it was so much faster than natural turn over (which is i guess what creates the perception that it takes forever to raid)

The natural vs pushing method of turnover becomes a sticking point when you either have your alts in the klan or just plain don’t have a lot of alts.

That’s been the main difference between our two klans. Back in the days of hugely long raids, we only had one or two alts that were able to push the forums. Once we ran out of visits on those, it was down to waiting for natural turnover. We *preferred* to push when we could, but those visits go FAST when you’re pushing for a raid.

Not all of us are alt whores, you know Log in to see images! Anyway, the point is that pushing becomes a LOT harder when you have a klan of people who want the scoops but don’t have alts.