And since this is in a roleplay forum, (which doesn’t seem to mean roleplay to many, it seems to mean “get away with being your own self but pretend it’s roleplaying if anyone calls you on it” ), I don’t see any point in trying to have a serious discussion. I appreciate those who seem to really be trying to have a dialog, but have long since learned that dialogs on fwz are more often than not just a long, poorly-disguised lead-up to a troll war.