make threads about m0x’s ban or they’ll be closed? There hasn’t been one shred of actual evidence linking m0x to any post-it’s that Catt received revealed, only pronounced that it exists, and I believe that the mods should come clean or unban m0x. Anything else destroys the trust that they govern in the best interest of the site and the community and lays bare an elitist attitude. This may not matter, who’s to say?

unban m0x

Protecting your ‘snitches’, eh? That’s cute.

Log in to see images! TUBSWEETIE edited this message on 09/20/2011 2:21AM

spacekadt Posted:

Contrary to popular belief/demand, users aren’t entitled to know everything single thing that goes on.

I’ll ignore the first part, as your only trolling me. It’s cool. I really don’t mind, ask Cid.

Tubs is right, this should have been completely opaque or completely transparent. This half-measure bull**** just incites drama and hard feelings. Hey, that might be the point, what do I know? Hopefully the ‘admins’ you’re talking to will tell us what the truth of the matter is. ‘Admins’, lol. What a crock. Like we don’t know who they are. You can say ‘JB’ or ‘ET’ if that’s who your talking to, using ‘admins’ just reeks of obfuscation. Much like the rest of the official story, which is why, when you think about it, that people seem so worked up about it.

Count_Smurf Posted:

’Admins’, lol. What a crock. Like we don’t know who they are. You can say ‘JB’ or ‘ET’ if that’s who your talking to, using ‘admins’ just reeks of obfuscation.

They actually are conferring with Timmeh and Bingebot.

When I have a little more time, I might double check, but IIRC, the unban requests from the community were how the ‘details’ got revealed. I don’t recall Catt or Space making a public announcement about the reasons behind m0x’s ban. So, Count_Smurf, to say that Catt & Space are ‘playing coy’ seems a bit off. Can you link to where one of the mods gave a ‘vague’ reason for the ban before a community member did so?

In any event, Space has a valid point. There’s no requirement for the evidence to be presented for public review. The only necessary review is by the site owners, which is happening behind the scenes. No one here is entitled to a specific explanation. It may sound harsh, but that’s the way it is.

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Skyman747 Posted:

i’d slam the door on your face too boy.

Sergeant Cid Posted:

When I have a little more time, I might double check, but IIRC, the unban requests from the community were how the ‘details’ got revealed. I don’t recall Catt or Space making a public announcement about the reasons behind m0x’s ban. So, Count_Smurf, to say that Catt & Space are ‘playing coy’ seems a bit off. Can you link to where one of the mods gave a ‘vague’ reason for the ban before a community member did so?

In any event, Space has a valid point. There’s no requirement for the evidence to be presented for public review. The only necessary review is by the site owners, which is happening behind the scenes. No one here is entitled to a specific explanation. It may sound harsh, but that’s the way it is.

The problem with requesting that I point to the post where Catt and/or Spacey revealed info is that those threads were all closed and/or moved. The posts in question either aren’t there anymore or are in a place where I can’t readily find them. How convenient.

Can you at least see why this is such a big deal? Can you see where the mod staff’s actions have been less than forthright? I’m not saying you’re the internet equivalent of jackbooted thugs by any means, but something is definitely fishy and I’m not leaving it alone until I know what it is.

Anyway, here’s the posts I was able to actually locate. This would be easier if threads weren’t closed hither and thither, helping to obfuscate the whole situation.

Here’s Catt alluding to evidence in the form of testimonials. Part of the problem is mods saying ‘We have the evidence, we’ll tell you what kind of evidence we have, but the details of this situation are not for public discussion.’ Complete bull****, claim proof, tell the kind of proof, but when proof is demanded you clam right the **** up. This is what people do when they are outright lying. Not accusing Catt of lying, just saying why this pattern is a problem.

Here’s Spacey giving a reason for m0x’s ban, but it’s obviously full of holes. Almost seems fabricated to fit the situation at hand, because, lo and behold, nothing is offered to prove any of it.

Quick aside. You and Spacey are right. There is no requirement to make this a public discussion. However that is not what happened. What happened is that you, Catt and Spacey all participated in this public discussion then started to stonewall when pressed on your story.

Here’s Cid making terrible analogies, dancing right around the subject and bumuming that probation can be or is usually revoked for no new offense. Part of the problem is that m0x is currently banned for not actually doing anything new.

Here’s Spacey alluding to proof and stonewalling. Log in to see images! See, this is a skilled post and probably should have been the extent of the mod’s response along with saying it’s being discussed with ET/JB. Unfortunately it was not, and becomes part of the problem.

Oh, just noticed the word ‘before’ in your post (quoted way back at the beginning of this post.). When is utterly irrelevant and is only your attempt to be technically right, but when a mod said what they said has nothing to do with what I’ve been saying. Stop that, it’s petty and dishonest.

Last thought. Why can’t I find a [Closed] thread in CD or it’s subforums but I can still find it if it’s in my subscriptions? Where does it go when it’s [Closed], because it sure as **** ain’t where it started.