3 scoops makes solo raiding worthless again. 239 scoops and 10 cards and we’re only on day 3?

How’s progress coming on splitting solo vs raiders, anyway?

Well, klan raiding takes quite a little bit more effort than solo raiding so I think it’s quite justified if it is more powerful. As long as it’s not too powerful, like 1000+ scoops advantage.

spacekadt Posted:

A good week with optimum visits can get three raids. bumuming perfect raids, that’s 1305 scoops each for 13 people. 1089 more than a solo player could get with the same number of visits.

Advantages should absolutely exist for klan raiding. The ability to completely bury any solo players shouldn’t.

**** that’s a lot..

I’m glad I’m in a klan

I think as long as it’s not like this all the time, things will be fine. If you’re near the end of a long streak, and you’re a solo player just don’t run any visits during raiding week, like I’m doing this week.

If there’s a theme week in the rotation that gives raiders an unbumailable advantage? So be it, but just let things go back to normal when the week is over. I think if it was like this all the time, I just wouldn’t play Dom.

Possibly a Cabbage Posted:

I think as long as it’s not like this all the time, things will be fine.

Theme weeks are used to test potential permanent changes. That’s why this feedback is valuable.

Catt although Posted:

The problem with making klan raiding more in line with solo raiding is that klan raiding is so long and tedious.

This is why I continually come back to “separate klan raiding from solo raiding”. I agree that because it’s long and tedious, and hard to coordinate, etc., there should be rewards. But that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be an incentive for solo players to play; that knocks out a huge portion of the player base.

Separate the klan raiders from the solo players so solo players have a reason to play, and give klan raiders more medal opportunities.

But I’m getting tired of saying this every time klan raids become incredibly unbalanced in regards to solo raids. Since I’ve been saying it for, oh, forever, and it seems to keep falling on deaf ears Log in to see images!

It would also be nice if klan raiding were a realistic option for people in smaller klans. Letting alts in to the raid but keeping the same cap on characters would make it a more viable option for people outside of the two biggest klans in the game.

MC Banhammer Posted:

But I’m getting tired of saying this every time klan raids become incredibly unbalanced in regards to solo raids. Since I’ve been saying it for, oh, forever, and it seems to keep falling on deaf ears Log in to see images!

It’s because your suggestion is bad. It’s as easy as that. Log in to see images!

Why? First of all, because the result would be that it would be a strategical decision if you klan raid or not. I doubt that the “fun aspect” would have too much influence, the question would rather be if you feel like you have better chances in medalling with or without klan raiding. And, thinking one step further, my bumumption is that the amount of klan raiders would be rather small due to various reasons, one of them simply being that solo raiding takes way less effort. And also because solo raiding actually doesn’t leave any space for “randomness” such as a competing klan simply earning more scoops in its klan raid than your klan (e.g. because you have less active people). I would feel much saver to get a medal in a solo bracket if I’m on the very end of my streak (because, let’s face it, a good player maybe loses about ~10 Log in to see images! FalCoN edited this message on 04/24/2009 12:39PM

FalCoN Posted:

Geez, we already had this discussion when the changes were introduced. Such calculations don’t have any value.

I’m not going to do calculations, but it’s neededless to say that the number 1305 Log in to see images!

150? You realize we got 252 scoops last night just in vanilla? With Neona’s script it’s very easy to keep your streak and with almost every forum being 2 hits per thread, the vast majority of those being one hit – run your raids when we did last night with the *slow* turnover and you don’t lose your lemons anymore either. We’re expected to hold 12 out of almost 100 forums.. raiding is nowhere near as difficult or quick as it used to be.

I bumumed that the objective was to get more klans into raiding than just Brainfreeze, GGM and Board of Ricket.

Yeah, our raid got disrupted, but I took that into account. Even if we use 250 Log in to see images! FalCoN edited this message on 04/24/2009 12:43PM