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John Stossel

Avatar: 134911 Thu Feb 12 13:53:03 -0500 2009
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[Fenjamellur]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

The child is clutching a couple bucks in his hand that his mom gave him to go buy candy. The wind is blowing in your direction. If the truck hits the child, you will be $2 richer!

It is not in your self interest to accept unearned material when you don’t need it in an emergency to sustain your life.

As far as my values go, child > 2$ or any other amount. Objectivists the people I’m standing up for here would not accept unearned fortune. Same goes for

me and for the same reasons because I’m Mormon.

I think you err in the value judgments you apply to Objectivists or people who seek their own rational self interest. Helping other people is often in your self interests. The values that they oppose are perhaps say if there were two children one your own and one unknown to you, granted you can only safe one to save not your own but you other. That is acting against your interests. These are not confined to hoarding money and material goods. That is for an example not the motive for my work as a writer. I simply want to accomplish at writing and that is my value, which gives me happiness. Now a book written for instant fame and monetary gain is nothing but vanity and sacrificing the integrity of your character is simply not worth it. As I can see you seem to always erect the straw man of materialism. There are other and much more important values and most if not all Objectivists and reasonably selfish people think so.

John Stossel edited this message on 02/26/2009 4:24PM

Oh, you recognize that child! His mother is a single welfare mom.

The child is poor.

The child has down’s syndrome.

The child is a minority.

The child is ugly.

The child will never amount to anything anyway.

John Stossel

Avatar: 134911 Thu Feb 12 13:53:03 -0500 2009
9

[Fenjamellur]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Oh, you recognize that child! His mother is a single welfare mom.

The child is poor.

The child has down’s syndrome.

The child is a minority.

The child is ugly.

The child will never amount to anything anyway.

If the risk is small I don’t mind it sticking crayons in it’s nose.

Certainly I would be less encouraged to do so. Why wouldn’t I be? Granted I has the impossible knowledge that the child would become a alcoholic pedophile I would not save it. Pity for transgressors is treason to the innocent and valuing disabilities is an insult to the able.

But risking your life for other people is not necessarily noble. SAR make sure the area is secure and make sure of their own safety before helping the victim of the accident. That is the reasonable way to do it. Acting only on impulse to save others is hardly a suitable philosophy.

John Stossel edited this message on 02/26/2009 5:01PM

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Considering that this:

“I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.”

is the tl;dr essence of her beliefs, you would have to be a pretty empty and completely selfish “human being” to subscribe to them. Not only has this very philosophy CAUSED the current economic situation,

Wrong. In fact, there’s no possible way you could be more wrong. The current economic situation has been caused by economic fascism and socialism.

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

but it basically bumumes everyone is capable of taking care of themselves.

No, it doesn’t do that, either. But if you enjoy creating strawmen, who am I to stop you?

I think you need to learn what economics and capitalism really are.

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

Inertia Posted:

Isn’t America a Capitalist country already?

Not in the least. It’s an interventionist, quasi-fascist, quasi-socialist, quasi-mercantilist state.

John Stossel

Avatar: 134911 Thu Feb 12 13:53:03 -0500 2009
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[Fenjamellur]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

OverclockedJesus Posted:

in the least. It’s an interventionist, quasi-fascist, quasi-socialist, quasi-mercantilist state.

Amen…

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

A child is about to get hit by a truck. I can save the child, but I might die or be injured. Well, I guess I’ll just stand here because it’s not in my enlightened self-interest. Log in to see images!You really do love strawmen, don’t you?

OverclockedJesus Posted:

really do love strawmen, don’t you?

Yes. And I completely disagree with you about the economic crisis. But getting back to the heart of the problem:

The child will grow up to be patient zero in a plague that kills millions, possibly billions, of people. It’s up to you, now! By letting a single child die you could save the future! Future war.

John Stossel

Avatar: 134911 Thu Feb 12 13:53:03 -0500 2009
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[Fenjamellur]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Yes. And I completely disagree with you about the economic crisis. But getting back to the heart of the problem:

The child will grow up to be patient zero in a plague that kills millions, possibly billions, of people. It’s up to you, now! By letting a single child die you could save the future! Future war.

That is impossible knowledge, erroneous epistemology.

I think there’s a tv show about it? That guy that like knows the news the next day or something. You’re that guy.

John Stossel

Avatar: 134911 Thu Feb 12 13:53:03 -0500 2009
9

[Fenjamellur]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

I think there’s a tv show about it? That guy that like knows the news the next day or something. You’re that guy.

Nope, I’m not schizophrenic.

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Troll

Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

OverclockedJesus Posted:

in the least. It’s an interventionist, quasi-fascist, quasi-socialist, quasi-mercantilist state.

i missed u

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Troll

Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

also galtse

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Yes. And I completely disagree with you about the economic crisis.

That’s because you’re an economic ignoramus. This is not a value-judgement, but a statement of fact. It’s not meant as derogatory. It’s meant as “you simply don’t have any thoughts on this beyond a superficial dislike of things.”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

The child will grow up to be patient zero in a plague that kills millions, possibly billions, of people. It’s up to you, now! By letting a single child die you could save the future! Future war.

You’re just not making sense.

Bill Clinton should have never made banks loan money to the blacks!!!

OverclockedJ-
esus

Avatar: 16071 2010-02-06 15:55:38 -0500
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Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

Bill Clinton should have never made banks loan money to the blacks!!!

Bill Clinton should never have changed the way the CRA was “enforced”. Carter should never have signed it into law. Greenspan should never have helped create another bubble. The federal reserve system shouldn’t exist in the first place.

Tell me: do you know anything about economics?

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