Nillo Posted:

Catapults that shoot ninjas that are on fire and throw guns that shoot swords that are also on fire.

On a more serious note, we could just find the abusers and block them from the creative aspects of the Forumbuilder. They can still play the created forums and look at the submitted content but are unable to vote on it.

Well, I don’t think EvilT actually has the time to block everyone who downvotes a lot from voting, etc.

I think that instead of ”^” and “V” bumons, there will be only ”^” bumon and an “x” bumon. On suggestions that you’ve read but didn’t like you’ll press X, that will prevent the idea from appearing again to you (you know, it’s random), and on ideas you like you’ll just vote up and everyone will be happy.

Also, Catapults that shoot ninjas there are on fire with chipmunks with diarrhea that are on fire shooting guns that shoot swords that are on fire.

And a robot who shoots Laz0rs.

RoadLord Posted:

Well, I don’t think EvilT actually has the time to block everyone who downvotes a lot from voting, etc.

That’s what moderators are for. If the devs don’t have the time to kick abusers they should start looking for friendly well-meaning players who can do it for them. That is, unless they come up with a different way to solve the problem. Like removing the domination thing and Flezz payouts from the Forumbuilder altogether.

I just vote for the stuff I like myself. Still a bit small on the douche side myself Log in to see images!

I upvote everything I like and downvote everything I don’t like. Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

Maybe there should be a middle option that counts you as having voted for the item but doesn’t effect the score, i.e. an “Okay” bumon.

Submission question. I submitted something practically at the last minute and it got a -5 score. Is it still in Limbo, or do I have to refine and resubmit?

One thing they could do is take away the downvote option, and make it so if something doesn’t get voted one in a certain time period, it’s take off. I also think the idea of having an X bumon to hide the submission is a good one too.

Nillo Posted:

’s what moderators are for. If the devs don’t have the time to kick abusers they should start looking for friendly well-meaning players who can do it for them. That is, unless they come up with a different way to solve the problem. Like removing the domination thing and Flezz payouts from the Forumbuilder altogether.

My 2 cents on this matter is that the abuse takes place because this is an automated system. Any automated but unmoderated system that pays out any kind of advantage will be abused. I see two things that would help reduce the amount of abuse that is done on forumbuildr.

First, if the automated removal process is considered a necessity, then add a time or max vote factor into the removal process. Either give ideas a base time (such as 24 hours) for maximum review before automatically removing it from the system, or use a maximum votes condition so that the idea cannot be automatically removed until a certain number of votes have been recorded (preferably high enough to overcome a single clan or group of clans from continuing their abuse).

Second, why is the selection system automated? Having the most votes should not automatically move an idea into the next forumbuildr slot. Instead, have a dev (or moderator if devs don’t have time) review the idea list, with the number of positive votes being a key weight on the decision. Manual review ideas will show up blatant system gaming, and can lead to an audit to identify the troublemakers. It might still be advisable to auto-remove low score reviews (I’m not a big fan of auto-removal, but acknowledge that there might be a need) from public view, but leave the actual idea submission in place for the manual review.

Yeah I kind of agree. Though I can see why they have a up and down voting system. They can’t host all the subs for things like Logos and Styles for a whole week, it probably eats loads of bandwidth. If it was time based you have to find a way to keep popular subs up, while removing subs that have gotten stale.

lycrashampoo Posted:

I dunno, no one I play Monopoly with ever acts like a racecar.

OH god I lol’d

My preference would be to rate the submissions, not just Digg or Bury them (I mean, uh, we did not rip off that site in the least). But, coding that is up to the Fishy One.

I figure that way you could get a neutral vote, you can really boost the good ones, etc. I was thinking out of five stars (including half stars, what the hell).