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Everyone say hi to our new mod: SUX2BUhi to our new mod: SUX2BU (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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First black man, first woman, or Vietnam vet*Puts on Plato hat* Maybe it would be productive if we had a definition of freedom we could agree on. Any suggestions? (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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The dollar failsThis line of argument would only seem to hold if taxes were immediately made due, and if ‘the people’ were taxed equally, and if, well, if the government collected more taxes during that time period.
wikipedia time! ” Business
Franklin D. Roosevelt[...]blamed the excesses of big business for causing an unstable bubble-like economy.[...]believed the problem was that business had too much power, and the New Deal was intended as a remedy, by empowering labor unions and farmers and by raising taxes on corporate profits. Regulation of the economy was a favorite remedy. [...]the Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Reserve, and Social Security won widespread support.
Lack of government deficit spending
[...]Keynes argued [...]that lower aggregate expenditures in the economy contributed to a mbumive decline in income and employment that was well below the average. In this situation, the economy might have reached a perfect balance, at a cost of high unemployment. Keynesian economists called for governments during times of economic crisis to pick up the slack by increasing government spending and/or cutting taxes.
Mbumive increases in deficit spending, new banking regulation, and boosting farm prices did start turning the U.S. economy around in 1933,[citation needed] but it was a slow and painful process. The U.S. had not returned to 1929’s GNP for over a decade and still had an unemployment rate of about 15% in 1940—down from 25% in 1932. The unemployment problem was not solved until the post-World War II decontrolling of the command wartime economy in 1946.”
The key point here is that taxes were only raised on those divisions of the population that had large amounts of money, i.e. major conglomerated businesses.
In terms of debate over the idea of the New Deal lengthening the Great Depression, I’ll admit there isn’t consensus, but it’s not clear why, or where it’s coming from:
“Virtually all historians believe that the New Deal helped resolve the Great Depression, but economists are less certain, with a substantial minority believing that it either had no great impact or worsened the depression.[36] A 1995 survey of economic historians asked whether “Taken as a whole, government policies of the New Deal served to lengthen and deepen the Great Depression.” Of those in economics departments 27% agreed, 22% agreed ‘with provisos’ (what provisos the survey does not state) and 51% disagreed. Of those in history departments, only 27% agreed and 74% disagreed. [1]
The minority view is[...]that the New Deal “cartelization policies are a key factor behind the weak recovery.” They say that the “abandonment of these policies coincided with the strong economic recovery of the 1940s.”[...] that the “Great Depression was very significantly prolonged in both its duration and its magnitude by the impact of New Deal programs.” They suggest that without Social Security, work relief, unemployment insurance, mandatory minimum wages, and without special government-granted privileges for labor unions, business would have hired more workers and the unemployment rate during the New Deal years would have been 6.7% instead of 17.2%.[38]”
The arguments suggesting that the New Deal worsened or lengthened the Great Depression rest on the intuition that businesses would have, for some reason, hired more workers, despite a lack of increased demand for products, or the capital for purchasing products. As stated before, arguments using statistical analysis placing the worst part of the Great Depression after the institution of the New Deal only apply if one bumumes economic change is instantaneous.
A better argument against the New Deal policies might involve FDR’s erosion of executive limits on power- it’s set some precedents that can theoretically be seen today in the Bush administration, particularly in regard to changes in the Supreme Court. Regardless, it would be educational to at least read the wikipedia articles I’ve cited, as I left out several wrinkles for space reasons. (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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4 Paranoid Panorama RunsAm I saving money by “topping off” my repairs after each forum run? I seem to be spending less than others are talking about. If that is indeed the case, then if one ignores Domination scoops, you can make a significant difference in your net profits by doing so. (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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First black man, first woman, or Vietnam vetCould one of you explain how this connects to the presidential elections? it just feels like you’re trading broad characterizations of the concept of freedom. (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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The dollar fails...so if I understand correctly, GRX, you’re espousing extreme Laissez-faire economics? As in, “people who were unemployed during the Great Depression should not have been helped” economics? As in Adam Smith and Rockefeller and “I drink your Milkshake”? (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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WEGOTPAID - Coz u know u wannaSorry to have turned down your invitation, but I’ve decided to stay unaffiliated. (view post) |
04/05/2008 |
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The dollar fails...explain how they were horrible. Start by explaining how the interstate highway system was a bad thing, then explain how financial stimulus made the Great Depression worse. -5 points every time you use an argument endorsed by Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/04/2008 |
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First black man, first woman, or Vietnam vetGRX Dragon, you do know this is a non-roleplaying forum, right? (view post) |
04/04/2008 |
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I want to be your friend!And yet nobody seemed to like the Myface forum idea I posted… (view post) |
04/03/2008 |
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The dollar failsWell, while a gold standard would be somewhat better in that particular instance it fails horribly due to its inflexibility under any other conditions. Also, there are a dozen other ways of alleviating the dollar, most of which involve improving other parts of the economy. I mean, there’s a reason why Log in to see images!)
Generally speaking, currency values should be viewed more as symptoms of other policies than reasons for policy in and of themselves. (view post) |
04/03/2008 |
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I wanna be the guyBeat it awhile ago, actually. I wrote the introduction on the main page. It’s also listed in the Super Hard Games thread. (view post) |
04/03/2008 |
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I Want to Be a Stripper.There’s only one good kind of stripping music, and that’s DnB. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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First black man, first woman, or Vietnam vetI dunno, speaking as a typical white person, I think his comments were pretty spot-on. racism isn’t just about conscious beliefs, it’s also about subconscious actions. A good(though not perfect) example of this sort of thing is the IAT:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/
How good is it? Senators refuse to take it, that good. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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please square do something with the final fantasy viii universeI may get killed for this, but in many ways I liked XII most. The plot, the mechanic and all were very different, and with a couple exceptions worked very well, IMO. Of course, then they make a Japan only version with an exclusive job system(which I hate) and Trial Mode(which I love). Sigh… It’s like Kingdom Hearts 2, only enjoyable. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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Drawn Together!!Drawn Together is funny for those who find the actions done by the characters funny, independent of context or meaning. So, rascism, gay jokes, shallow characterization that is never proven wrong…hm. I see.
Let’s have some fun and compare Drawn Together with Futurama. Think about it. What you consume in the area of comedy says a lot about you. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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How do I stop failing at Gamblebot?TUBSWEETIE Posted:
The way gambling wins over people in RL is because they attribute behaviors to the games that don’t exist. Folks come up with methods to beat the numeric system, reading things into the random outcomes that don’t actually exist. Unless you’re going for antifreeze(good luck), I recommend staying the hell away from the gamblebot. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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Discussion about Episode 2...More complex combat- what if forums could strike back in more ways, or had more protection to getting on to them? Stats are kinda simple, too. I wouldn’t mind trying to troll out specific mission-related posters, as sort of boss fights… (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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What do you do outside of Forumwarz?I studies Psych for a long time, before I switched to a single major. I was in the cognitive end of things though, not so much with the essay-writing. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |
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DANTE KINKADE AND THE AFTERMATHBalloon Posted:
Also, PANTS is an idiot.
Thank you for your time. (view post) |
04/01/2008 |